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Who you voting for?

Labour
22
29%
National
40
53%
Greens
0
No votes
NZ First - So winston can choose ;)
2
3%
ACT
1
1%
Other
4
5%
Still Dont Know
3
4%
Not Voting (Explain why)
3
4%
 
Total votes : 75

Postby JT » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:03 pm

lostslinky wrote:ERRRR. I know your a mod of these forums but I'm still going to say it anyway. Your an idiot. An idiot whos ill informed as well.


Haha, let me teach you lesson then. At least if you are going to resort to calling someone names make sure YOUR facts are straight, in this case you don't and it shows you up as the idiot.

lostslinky wrote:Where to start. The first three issues you listed were done via a CONSCIENCE vote where EVERY member of paliament votes and not on party lines. But yeah blame the labour party anyway :roll:


Where to start huh... If you had done any research you would know the Labour party pushed for the legislations being civil unions and prostitution. If you knew this you would also know that 90% of the Labour party AND green party members voted FOR them and nearly 90% of National party voted against them :roll:

lostslinky wrote:Helen Clark doesn't believe in Marriage :lol: Best one Ive heard all day
She is MARRIED to Dr Peter Davis and has been for a heck of a long time.


Helen clark is married, yes i know that (as again I have done some research) and she herself has written (I'll find a link soon) she "doesn't believe in marriage and the only reason she got married was to stop people questioning her sexuality". She lives in the NI and he lives in CHCH, great marriage they must have. :roll:

lostslinky wrote:"in bed with tree hugging hippies" ROFL watch the news man or read the local paper or something!!!. This election term they are NOT in coalition with the greens as they had a falling out over genetic modification and cornogate.


See my point about labour AND greens on the civil unions and prostitution :roll:
Chances are they would need to go with them again if they got in this term.

lostslinky wrote:"NCEA screw up" :arrow: NATIONAL introduced NCEA NOT LABOUR :oops: Get that through your head man and also the report on NCEA found that regardless on whome would instigate the system there would have been problems.


NCEA was introduced in 2002, who was in Government in 2002, or 2001 or 2000?

lostslinky wrote: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Only 15% of people go on to univeristy education. Thats not all that much at all. As for the interest free loans its great and will help many more people with the cost of university. Don't even try to argue with me that you believe studetns will borrow more out of it and get into more debt as hopefully you have the intelligence to know thats incorrect....


Im not going to bother arguing, I'll tell you straight up. You'd be an idiot to go to Uni and not book up every possible cost you incur against your student loan, while keeping as much money in the bank and earning interest from it. And you're telling me this wont increase borrowing, riiiight.

Next?

Oh and here's some more good reasons not to vote for labour:
http://cathyodgers.blogspot.com/2005/09 ... ndals.html
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Postby pervert » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:09 pm

BAM! :lol:
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Postby AE85coupe » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:24 pm

pervert wrote:I mean people who do this, then spend the rest of their life on some kind of benefit/dole whatever...they borrowed all that money, then it's being paid back by the same people they borrowed it off... :lol:


hahaha those people should be shot hahahaha

whats wrong with prostitution and civil union? (wait for it)
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Postby pervert » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:28 pm

Prostitution, nothing...civil union...lots... :lol:

Nice pot stir though... :lol:
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Postby blackie » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:38 pm

Winston peters 4 lyfe :lol:

Helen clark majorly $&#$% me off.
I think ill still vote national.
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Postby Alex B » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:43 pm

lostslinky wrote:It still a loan pervert. You have to pay it back sometime. Just like taking out a loan with the bank or credit company.....IF someone really believes their future lies in signing up for tertiary courses which will cost them 000's so it enables them to get a tiny 150 a week they are deluded....


Or you could just rack up a 40k loan, get your PhD, leave the country, deam your self bankrupt in nz and come back in 3-5 years :lol:
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Postby bogjob_kp60 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:08 pm

I will cut off my left testicle if National gets in :evil:
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Postby bad20v » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:08 pm

What ever happened to theMacGillycarty Serious Party
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Your Opinion Means 1/16th Of Stuff All To Me So Dont Bother Arguing With Me About It As I Just Dont Care.

Thank-You.
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:22 pm

bogjob_kp60 wrote:I will cut off my left testicle if National gets in :evil:

Then you can have a bet with Bob Clarkson :lol:
bad20v wrote:What ever happened to theMacGillycarty Serious Party
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Or The McGillicuddy Serious Party even ;) Now there's some policies worth voting for :lol:

Seems from the serious nature of the debate in this thread people have yet two learn the two inexorable truths about Elections, namely;
1. Don't vote, it only encourages them. :twisted:
2. Don't vote, Governments always win :evil:
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Postby Emperor » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:25 pm

bogjob_kp60 wrote:I will cut off my left testicle if National gets in :evil:


i'm holding you to that
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Postby Bling » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:31 pm

bogjob_kp60 wrote:I will cut off my left testicle if National gets in :evil:


i'm sure you'll be sweet as with just the one... :twisted:
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Postby bogjob_kp60 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:10 pm

Na my left testicle is to presious. I might just move to australia

We just got 5 pamphlets in the mail today, 3 were from the exlusive bretheren, and the other two were national pamphlets.
Where are they getting their money for all this from?????? Its pritty dodgy
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:16 pm

bogjob_kp60 wrote:Na my left testicle is to presious. I might just move to australia

Where the equivalent to the Nats is firmly entrenched and the left is even more of a joke than NZ, and they can't even spell Labo(u)r. :lol:

Bit of a double standard there, or is it just NZ right wing politicians you dislike so much :roll:
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Postby lostslinky » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:06 pm

pervert wrote:BAM! :lol:


LOL If you think he proved anything with those statements you are terribly wrong sir. I have no strong prefered political preference was mearly pointing out alot of mistakes made in Mr JT's post. As for his reply, again he has missed the boat...

Noone is telling you who to vote for but do it for the right reasons. Don't cast your vote due to half-truths , misconceptions etc....
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Postby AJz » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:39 pm

bogjob_kp60 wrote:I will cut off my left testicle if National gets in :evil:


just for that, vote.......National....."Click"........hmmm, looks like you wanna get yourself prepared for this, nationals doing quite well in OUR poll.

:P

man, one nut, what are ya gonna do :wink:
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Postby Scotty » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:16 am

pervert wrote:I mean people who do this, then spend the rest of their life on some kind of benefit/dole whatever...they borrowed all that money, then it's being paid back by the same people they borrowed it off... :lol:


As far as i know if you make more than ~16k a year you automatically pay back the loan so its not as if you can just not pay it back. There are also limits to the amount you can get per week 150 i think and ~1000 per year course related costs.
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Postby CozmoNz » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:30 am

When declaring your Tax code, you have the option of M or ML (i think its ML), M is standard, Primary Income, The ML option, is if you have a student loan.

needless to say, all jobs im working / have worked, have all been M :).

Its probbaly going to nip me in the arse soon, but until then!

Im only on 18k a year right now too :( (but thats higher than the 16!)
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Postby pervert » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:45 am

Scotty wrote:As far as i know if you make more than ~16k a year you automatically pay back the loan so its not as if you can just not pay it back. There are also limits to the amount you can get per week 150 i think and ~1000 per year course related costs.


Thanks for that Captian Obvious...but Cozmo is right, it's up to you to declare your tax code as M SL, if you don't, then you don't pay...it takes a few years for them to catch up on you with this, I know from experience...

Gives you a few years to work, save up some $$$ without paying any of your loan, and $&#$% off overseas at least...

...and everyone knows the limits on what you can get, if you'd bother to read posts it is talked about...
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Postby HELBND » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:52 am

considering how many different people are on trademe, this could be reasonably accurate

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/vote.asp

Go National 8)
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Postby Spannergal » Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:02 am

HELBND wrote:considering how many different people are on trademe, this could be reasonably accurate

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/vote.asp

Go National 8)


however that poll negates to have an option for those who are not supporting a party currently in parliament. I know of at least two people other than myself on trademe who wouldn't support any of the parties listed in the Trademe Poll
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