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Postby Cakky » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:51 pm

After what happened with that girl on Cambridge Terrace, you would think that people might be acting a little bit more responsibily.

Went past turners on my way home from the girlfriends, 3 cars lined up straight across the road heading towards me, racing each other, then turned around and did the same thing again, flipping idiots.

a grey wrx wagon, black rs legacy, and what looked like a black trueno with big front mount and possibly 17" reflexes ( really hope it wasnt a member :evil: )

why were so many people in this region in the short line in the gene pool?
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Postby itsamirage » Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:13 am

People like that give us (car enthusiasts/boy racers/petrol heads/you get the point) a bad name, I would have called the cops, not that it would have helped... Someone said it in another thread, theres a time and a place, why cant all the retards crash and kill each other (and no one else) so only the (semi) responsible are out there in the public eye... Gosh! Frikkin idiots
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Postby pc » Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:21 pm

Gotta have your fun somewhere... Turners is outta the way.

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Postby fangsport » Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:02 pm

pc wrote:Gotta have your fun somewhere... Turners is outta the way.

Kill Joy.

yip, it's called a legal motorsport event.
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Postby pc » Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:35 pm

Not enough of them, or enough variety for the number of people that are interested in racing.

simple.
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Postby fangsport » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:18 pm

pc wrote:Not enough of them, or enough variety for the number of people that are interested in racing.

simple.
no, you are wrong. street racing/drifting is ghey, period.
if you want to legally do skids, you would. attention seeking munters will never front up at an organised event, because they know they are shite, and are not prepared to prove otherwise.

how is it that the many clubs in wellington seem to always have events posted on here, of which, many members of this forum compete in or help organise.

dude, get a life.
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Postby Pies » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:53 pm

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Postby -Dan-Knee- » Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:42 pm

fangsport wrote:
pc wrote:Not enough of them, or enough variety for the number of people that are interested in racing.

simple.
no, you are wrong. street racing/drifting is ghey, period.
if you want to legally do skids, you would. attention seeking munters will never front up at an organised event, because they know they are shite, and are not prepared to prove otherwise.

how is it that the many clubs in wellington seem to always have events posted on here, of which, many members of this forum compete in or help organise.

dude, get a life.


You should prob check out who you are sayin that to before you start ranting off like that ay.

From what i know pete is 1 of wellys main drivers in organised events in welly.
The red corolla is always out @ the motokhanas i have been to and from what i understand he does alot more events as well.

hes just sayin that there aren't enuough of these events out there and no matter what people are gonna do it out on the streets cos they feel the need to show their 800hp evo is faster than someones mates mates twin turbo batty running the NOS bro!!!

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Postby fangsport » Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:15 pm

-Dan-Knee- wrote:

You should prob check out who you are sayin that to before you start ranting off like that ay.

From what i know pete is 1 of wellys main drivers in organised events in welly.
The red corolla is always out @ the motokhanas i have been to and from what i understand he does alot more events as well.

hes just sayin that there aren't enuough of these events out there and no matter what people are gonna do it out on the streets cos they feel the need to show their 800hp evo is faster than someones mates mates twin turbo batty running the NOS bro!!!

/end of rant
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fair cop,
but why would he condone such activity?

if he is a competitor, and complains that there arn't enough events, the easiest way to resolve the situation is to then get on a committee of the club he belongs to and create new events.

it's very easy for people to complain about the efforts of motorsport clubs, but without guys from the street getting involved in organising events, how are we to know what the street racers want?
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Postby Simon K » Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:07 pm

I can't speak for the twats racing on the street but you would not believe how many people could be bowled crossing roads in broad daylight while blabbing on their cellphones. It seems that with two deaths in the past weeks, no one on the streets has changed their behaviour either.

Example on Wednesday. I drove through an intersection(on the green) and stopped halfway through to honk at a suit who had strolled into it , directly infront of the car without even seeing me

The MP3 player users are just as bad. Not sure but I think the bus vs Pedestrian the other week involved one.
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Postby crnkin » Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:31 pm

Simon K wrote:I can't speak for the twats racing on the street but you would not believe how many people could be bowled crossing roads in broad daylight while blabbing on their cellphones.


Yes but we have loud exhausts. much much worse

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The law sucks, however I agree 3 abreast racing is slighly more dangerous than chatting on a cellphone in ruch hour for a minute. 2 minute on a cellphone would probly be more dangerous than a 10 sec boy race...
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Postby Leon » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:20 am

Cars don't kill people. Ipods kill people.
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Postby gurutasker » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:04 am

Leon wrote:Cars don't kill people. Ipods kill people.


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Postby Arthanon » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:35 pm

I got called out Thursday night (work in tunnel grove).

These munters fly through the intersection at the end of hutt park and gracefield roads without even blinking.

One of these days they are gonna get taken out by a 44 ton b-train doing 50 - 60km/h

The truck wont stop in a hurry....

It doesnt matter how many events there are ect, there is no excuse for being a fool on the road.

Street racing, wether you agree or not, is illegal, it is stupid and people die.

Race on the track, or obey the road laws.
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Postby pc » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:51 pm

fangsport wrote:
-Dan-Knee- wrote:

You should prob check out who you are sayin that to before you start ranting off like that ay.

From what i know pete is 1 of wellys main drivers in organised events in welly.
The red corolla is always out @ the motokhanas i have been to and from what i understand he does alot more events as well.

hes just sayin that there aren't enuough of these events out there and no matter what people are gonna do it out on the streets cos they feel the need to show their 800hp evo is faster than someones mates mates twin turbo batty running the NOS bro!!!

/end of rant
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fair cop,
but why would he condone such activity?

if he is a competitor, and complains that there arn't enough events, the easiest way to resolve the situation is to then get on a committee of the club he belongs to and create new events.

it's very easy for people to complain about the efforts of motorsport clubs, but without guys from the street getting involved in organising events, how are we to know what the street racers want?


OK... I will attempt to explain myself
I'm not complaining about the efforts of motorsport clubs at all... I think the Wellington clubs do a fantastic job. I have never tried to 'create' an event, but my understanding is that it can very easily fall into the 'too hard' basket. You need a venue, a motorsport friendly venue owner, council approval, no whinging residents or other people that don't like motorsport that whinge really loudly.
Without some public & local body support there can't be a great range of events, so this idea that there is no reason to be out there on the streets becomes a ideallistic view that is not connected in any way to reallity.
Case in point: If you like drag racing, want to race your mates, and live in Wellington. Your options for a 1/4 mile are spend $100s of dollars on gas to go far North, wait 1/2 a year and go to Masterton and spend $120 to enter there. The reallity of the situation is that sealed motorsport events are not cheap or accesible in Wellington... bottom line, if kids want to race their cars, the street is viewed as the only option.
What happened to the Wellington street race???? the whingers that stopped that one are everywhere... not just in apartment blocks in the city.
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Postby fangsport » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:55 pm

pc wrote:
OK... I will attempt to explain myself
I'm not complaining about the efforts of motorsport clubs at all... I think the Wellington clubs do a fantastic job. I have never tried to 'create' an event, but my understanding is that it can very easily fall into the 'too hard' basket. You need a venue, a motorsport friendly venue owner, council approval, no whinging residents or other people that don't like motorsport that whinge really loudly.
Without some public & local body support there can't be a great range of events, so this idea that there is no reason to be out there on the streets becomes a ideallistic view that is not connected in any way to reallity.
Case in point: If you like drag racing, want to race your mates, and live in Wellington. Your options for a 1/4 mile are spend $100s of dollars on gas to go far North, wait 1/2 a year and go to Masterton and spend $120 to enter there. The reallity of the situation is that sealed motorsport events are not cheap or accesible in Wellington... bottom line, if kids want to race their cars, the street is viewed as the only option.
What happened to the Wellington street race???? the whingers that stopped that one are everywhere... not just in apartment blocks in the city.


it is a double-edged sword.

on one hand, your are trying to create events to get 'boy-racers', 'hoons' etc to enter, to try and get their antics off public roads

but,

they have a tendency to have already created enough ill-feeling, for residents to not allow use of a venue.

i recently tried to get a really grouse gravel road for a sprint, most of the residents were cool about it, apart from a date clash (easily changed), but when i went for final approval, the middle resident changed her mind and decided against it.
her argument was 'whilst we don't have an issue with the event closing the road, i do have an issue with guys coming out practising', little did she know, that there are articles in the club charter (and MSNZ), that allow clubs to suspend competition licences , under these circumstances.

i know how hard it is to get events off the ground, it could be argued that SCCC have it easy, as we have a racetrack at our disposal. but with our resource consent restrictions, the track must only be used for events that need to be held there, and a fair amount of lateral thinking needs to be used to find others venues for seal events such as autocrosses/ motorkhanas etc.
private land is always a good option, as usage is determined by owners, not neighbours, maybe a few freight companies need to be approached as a possible venue??
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Postby eritate » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:14 pm

fangsport wrote:
pc wrote:
OK... I will attempt to explain myself
I'm not complaining about the efforts of motorsport clubs at all... I think the Wellington clubs do a fantastic job. I have never tried to 'create' an event, but my understanding is that it can very easily fall into the 'too hard' basket. You need a venue, a motorsport friendly venue owner, council approval, no whinging residents or other people that don't like motorsport that whinge really loudly.
Without some public & local body support there can't be a great range of events, so this idea that there is no reason to be out there on the streets becomes a ideallistic view that is not connected in any way to reallity.
Case in point: If you like drag racing, want to race your mates, and live in Wellington. Your options for a 1/4 mile are spend $100s of dollars on gas to go far North, wait 1/2 a year and go to Masterton and spend $120 to enter there. The reallity of the situation is that sealed motorsport events are not cheap or accesible in Wellington... bottom line, if kids want to race their cars, the street is viewed as the only option.
What happened to the Wellington street race???? the whingers that stopped that one are everywhere... not just in apartment blocks in the city.


it is a double-edged sword.

on one hand, your are trying to create events to get 'boy-racers', 'hoons' etc to enter, to try and get their antics off public roads

but,

they have a tendency to have already created enough ill-feeling, for residents to not allow use of a venue.

i recently tried to get a really grouse gravel road for a sprint, most of the residents were cool about it, apart from a date clash (easily changed), but when i went for final approval, the middle resident changed her mind and decided against it.
her argument was 'whilst we don't have an issue with the event closing the road, i do have an issue with guys coming out practising', little did she know, that there are articles in the club charter (and MSNZ), that allow clubs to suspend competition licences , under these circumstances.

i know how hard it is to get events off the ground, it could be argued that SCCC have it easy, as we have a racetrack at our disposal. but with our resource consent restrictions, the track must only be used for events that need to be held there, and a fair amount of lateral thinking needs to be used to find others venues for seal events such as autocrosses/ motorkhanas etc.
private land is always a good option, as usage is determined by owners, not neighbours, maybe a few freight companies need to be approached as a possible venue??


even if it is private land owners are stand off ish. Because if we go on Joe Bloggs farm and Fangsport ends up crashing into the nearest and Fattest Fence Post. And severly hurts himself and others. The Owner - Joe Bloggs is then held responsible...
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Postby fangsport » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:58 pm

eritate wrote:
even if it is private land owners are stand off ish. Because if we go on Joe Bloggs farm and Fangsport ends up crashing into the nearest and Fattest Fence Post. And severly hurts himself and others. The Owner - Joe Bloggs is then held responsible...

no, read the back of an entry form, but Fang is responsible for the property damage :(
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Postby eritate » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:12 pm

fangsport wrote:
eritate wrote:
even if it is private land owners are stand off ish. Because if we go on Joe Bloggs farm and Fangsport ends up crashing into the nearest and Fattest Fence Post. And severly hurts himself and others. The Owner - Joe Bloggs is then held responsible...

no, read the back of an entry form, but Fang is responsible for the property damage :(



yer but what would OSH say?
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Postby fangsport » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:25 pm

eritate wrote:
yer but what would OSH say?


you know what OSH really means?
Occaisionally Shit Happens.

the trick is, to create a course where high speed isn't an option (if it is a confined area), and make it a technical track instead.
high speed should only be attained at closed road and circuit based events
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