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by **bbq1988** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:19 pm

hey any of you guys have a ballpark price for that engine?

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:52 pm

What type of 3SGTE?

by **bbq1988** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:40 pm

Gen 3 FWD

by **Alex B** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:45 pm

No such thing as a FWD 3sgte.

by **bbq1988** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:47 pm

A celica GT4 ST205 Gen 3 3S-GTE...
Not FWD but could soon be

by **Quint** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:56 pm

pyro_sniper2002 wrote:No such thing as a FWD 3sgte.

Couldn't you mount a mr2 3sgte in the front of something since its all transverse and what not.

by **bbq1988** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:59 pm

lol good thinking, i just want a basic price atm, i have ideas in mind

by **Alex B** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:59 pm

For shizzle, you would have to play with a few things like the loom, cooling lines and the shifter links tho. Probly other stuff ive forgotten too.

by **cr1mnl** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:40 pm

i have a gen 2 from a mr2 setup fwd. its not that hard. i paid 1200 for eng,loom and ecu about 4 years ago. i've seen them going for anywhere from $800 to $2000 depending on conditon and what they come with.

by **strx7** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:42 pm

anywhere between $1800 & $3000 + gst and freight. Good Luck finding one though, ST215 GT-T Caldina engines are FRACTIONALY easier to find and the same money

by **Jazza** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:12 pm

But are a pita to modify to fit something compared to an st205 engine from what ive heard.

by **RunningRich** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:22 am

Get a Celica engine unless you are a sucker for punishment. There are many differences on the MR2 engine that make it so much harder to fit in the front. Even the cambelt cover is different.

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by **strx7** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:28 am

cracks me up, i've heard guys going on about how different the engines are, i bolted an ST185 GT4 box onto a ST215 GT-T engine and bolted it straight into my ST185 with NO hassles AT ALL!!!!

for sure the MR2 engines are a bit different

by **RomanV** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:50 am

I've got a gen 4 3SGE from both a celica and MR2.
Currently running the celica engine with MR2 bits.
What are the differences?

1. Coolant neck.. Celica gets coolant filled up at the radiator, MR2 has a coolant filler in the engine bay. So the MR2 coolant neck on the engine block has 2 pipes instead of one

2. Crank pulley. Celica crank pulley has accomodation for running powersteering, with a half sized pulley wheel. MR2 one does not

3. Dipstick faces a different direction on each

4. Badges are the other way up on the manifold/rocker cover

5. Wiring loom is completely different, obviously

6. RHS engine mount was different

And that's about it.

It's definitely not impossible to use an MR2 engine in a celica or vice versa, but I wouldnt reccomend it, if you could just get a celica engine instead.
Although in saying this, I'm fairly certain that if your car came with a gen 3 3SGE for example, you could use the crank pulley/engine mount/coolant neck on the 3SGTE you're putting in. (assuming you're putting in a gen 3 3SGTE...)
The dipsticks are different lengths between turbo and NA IIRC.

I cant see why a GTT engine would be hugely hard to fit in a celica.

by **cr1mnl** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:57 am

still not that hard to fit mr2 to fwd. move the alternator to front, fit powersteering pump and crank pulley off any fwd 3s. all the castings and holes are there and threaded. its just a bit of mixing and matching of parts.

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