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Postby Dragger_Dan » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:03 pm

Damn, can't find the source .... but remember reading that the LTSA said the ad was aimed at those who 'enjoy driving'

WHAT THE $&#$%?

Seriously, this nanny state shit is going too far. Sorry guys, we'll have to close Toyspeed, we're not allowed to enjoy driving any more.
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Postby no_8wire » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:21 pm

I personally dont see whats the fuss is about...2 million? Petty change in real terms...

(But then again I am used to working with Auckland City Council Projects :lol: )
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Postby AE82 FXGT » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:42 pm

Zitchu wrote:If it is such a big deal to Ford then i say Chevy should take Ford to court because of the other ad with the slot cars. I doubt a Falcon would hold the road better than the full race spec Corvette :roll:


Yeah, along with that JGTC 350Z.

That add made me so angry!

The falcon would come off worst around corners against all those cars.
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Postby Loudtoy » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:08 pm

snwtoy wrote:I was thinking the same too. What message are they trying to get across?


I'm pretty sure, but don't quote me on it that the message they are trying to get across is - at any stage on any stretch of road you may find a large hole, badly sealed section where it looks as tho a land mine has recently exploded. Chances of finding said section of road increases dramatically with introduction of blind corners and other pints of reduced visibility. Once you have found said section of road in all probability you will fall off a bank and roll onto some logs specifically placed for dramatic effect but mainly to prevent you rolling into yonda stream and so increasing recovery costs. Basicly a warning from ltsa about the standard of new zealands roads imho.
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Postby knate » Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:33 pm

Loudtoy wrote:We probably better off either buying a helicopter or being unable to afford that going back to horse and cart - altho the horse and cart will cost more to run that the chopper with this carbon emissions thing coming in


And then the bloody govenment will push again for fart tax and youll be paying more tax load every time your horse rips one.

I think theyre being to frikken cryptic with the message in that ad. They need to be blunt. I think the *idea* of the ad is good, but i can understand Fords complaint.
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Postby pc » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:31 pm

knate wrote:
Loudtoy wrote:We probably better off either buying a helicopter or being unable to afford that going back to horse and cart - altho the horse and cart will cost more to run that the chopper with this carbon emissions thing coming in

And then the bloody govenment will push again for fart tax and youll be paying more tax load every time your horse rips one.

I think theyre being to frikken cryptic with the message in that ad. They need to be blunt. I think the *idea* of the ad is good, but i can understand Fords complaint.

Nothing cryptic about it, it is blunt. The message is "go too fast around corner, loose control, smash car" Does it get any simpler than that?
It's just as 'cryptic' as all the other road safety adds.
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Postby BZR4AGE » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:35 pm

On a side note, I've always been interested in how they actually make the ad? is it computer generated??? if it is, is bloody good job.

i mean seeing some of the crash, like that "mate" one with a toyota curren, and the intersection one with the honda accord etc etc, surely they wouldn't have someone driving it and smashing it right?

sorry to bring it out, just interested to know :D
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Postby Punter » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:15 pm

BZR4AGE wrote:On a side note, I've always been interested in how they actually make the ad? is it computer generated??? if it is, is bloody good job.

i mean seeing some of the crash, like that "mate" one with a toyota curren, and the intersection one with the honda accord etc etc, surely they wouldn't have someone driving it and smashing it right?

sorry to bring it out, just interested to know :D
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Postby 79rolla » Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:03 pm

a mate had a verry good comment about that today
ford should be happy that so many people can recignise there cars after being debadged... and isint any publisity good publicity??

and its not helped by the fact that that crash is completely fake.. its not a bad ad except for the part that its not realistic :?
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Postby durty starlet » Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:26 am

79rolla wrote:a mate had a verry good comment about that today
ford should be happy that so many people can recignise there cars after being debadged... and isint any publisity good publicity??

and its not helped by the fact that that crash is completely fake.. its not a bad ad except for the part that its not realistic :?


what do you mean fake?

its a real car going off a real road
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:18 am

Lol at all the guy's saying what a waste of taxpayers money. The ad cost 2million, so-would you like your 50c back as a cheque or a 50c mixture from your dairy? Harden up aye.
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:22 am

The reason Ford don't like the ad because its a true representation of its car. All they really are are Taxi's made by a convict nation.
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Postby 79rolla » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:25 am

durty starlet wrote:
79rolla wrote:a mate had a verry good comment about that today
ford should be happy that so many people can recignise there cars after being debadged... and isint any publisity good publicity??

and its not helped by the fact that that crash is completely fake.. its not a bad ad except for the part that its not realistic :?


what do you mean fake?

its a real car going off a real road


yeah its a real car but the loosing control is unrealistic (its been commented on back further) looks like they hand breaked it then locked the breaks up... even of it did loose control a car like that has abs and stuff anyway (and if the guy knew how to drive he wouldint of locked up anyway)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:03 am

:lol: wtf @ lots of ppl here.

its a road safety ad.
its targeting ppl who drive a bit fast in corners.
its not a nana state gone mad... its pointing out that ANYONE in ANY car can crash if you push too hard.
you can have fun with out being dangerous.

the reason ford are upset is the unrealistic way in which the car crashes.
THATS whats different about this one and all the other road safety ads.

other than that i see no problem with it.

that doesnt however mean i agree with the LTSA and polices road safety strategy

i suggest ppl think a bit before posting.
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Postby 3VLTOY » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:20 am

79rolla wrote:(and if the guy knew how to drive he wouldint of locked up anyway)


Yes but I think that it is safe to say that not everybody in this world can drive.

Losing it round a corner due to speed is reason most people crash.
Or because they drive like idiots on the road.
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:18 pm

Easy stunt to pull off... on one of the shots I'm sure the back wheels are locked up and the fronts aren't. (44 seconds, from the rear) Which would suggest the handbrake was used here.

Big continuity mistake tho, clearly was shot in two parts. Once the handbrake was pulled countersteer is applied, however when the car goes over the bank the wheels are facing the other way. Plus it was shot against different backgrounds

Also the car seems to have a redicilous amount of tint, including the windscreen and rear screen... probably to hide the rollcage and stunt driver, or the radio control gear and lack of driver, however they did it.

Sure, nothing to do with the ethics of the ad, just some observations.
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Postby Adamal » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:51 pm

You know, this is the second cheeky ad that they've had.

I remember hearing one on the radio recently which was a take off of Personalized Plates, where a guy says "I knew he loved his cars, so I had to get him the perfect plate. S, P, E, D, R. Speeder! The problem was, he was... And they think he was going about 130 when he hit the power pole, and it killed him instantly"

Something along those lines, I can't remember it word for word. But even then I was thinking "Man, I'd be pretty pissed off with that ad if I were from Personalized Plates"
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