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Postby Emperor » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:38 pm

Anyone know about the new Japanese Importation laws that Unkie Helen wants to bring in?

Basically, no cars older than 4 years will be allowed into the country! Nothing older than 2003.
It's an attempt to bring down emission pollutions and the ozone layer, etc.

Now, how does this affect you? Well for you guys who want Altezzas, Chasers, Evos, Skylines, Imprezas, MR2s, and every other late model performance car, you wont be able to get one! Unless it's a new shape Evo, Impreza, Skyline.. Which most of you wouldn't want to be forking out for one!!

Now, you'll probably think "sweet i'll just buy them on trademe instead of imported from a dealer"... Well.. When these laws come in, it will mean less performance cars, which means the price will be going up! So you'll be forced to pay more, or buy cheaper older cars.

Not only will this affect dealers, and car buyers, but also big companies, such as Kiwi Car Carriers, K&N Trucks, Travelex, etc. They won't have as many cars to bring over, which means less business and money for them.
Travelex won't have as much NZD to Yen sent over to Japan, which will mean less customers and business for them too!!

We need everyone behind the dealers, to STOP THIS STUPID RULE!!

Labour is trying to control how New Zealanders live, it is getting ridiculous!

So everyone who is on our side, get behind us! I can suggest contacting your local MP, and hounding them with your issues against this new law. The more people the better, even better in bigger groups.

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Postby Infinite » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:49 pm

hows about instead of a post were all gona bitch in, get a petition going on? and get everyone signing it.... just an idea... and at the end of the day retaging a car is pritty easy esp on currens and celicas >_< so it dun affect me that much
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Postby Dell'Orto » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:51 pm

Internet petitions dont achieve bugger all. What we really need is for someone like Tony Johnson from the LVVTA to draw one up and have it mailed around the country to all the hot rod clubs etc - that might carry some weight.
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Postby Infinite » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:53 pm

wasnt talking about just an internet one but any is better than none.
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Postby fivebob » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:23 pm

Why bother with a petition when you have the right to make submissions anyway?
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Postby Infinite » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:39 pm

dam i so aint filling all that out lol.
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Postby gleem » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:40 pm

i'll be looking at importing an altezza sometime next year, what are the chances of this actually going through tho?
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Postby Emperor » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:44 pm

gleem wrote:i'll be looking at importing an altezza sometime next year, what are the chances of this actually going through tho?


Its going through. Deffinitely.
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Postby fivebob » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:46 pm

Infinite wrote:dam i so aint filling all that out lol.

So in other words you don't really care enough to do anything about the new import laws, except bitch on an internet forum. Typical, and the reason such laws get passed, the public is to apathetic to do anything except moan after the fact :roll:
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Postby Infinite » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:51 pm

i can send a submission in but im gona end up writen little wee comments in some of the boxes because i dont knw what to word and write in it to make it sound professional and it will just be put in the trash pile were as a petition has some one who can word it right and then u just gota sign it.... i dont want to see the law in place but honestly im sick and $&#$% tired of the laws ive been runing round in uncerted cars for soo long at the end of the day i think its just gona be a matter of runing a sleeper to overcome shity laws and p plates on un-registable cars done it befor had a curren i got from japan cldnt be vinned so i just run it on fake tags evan got away with it, and hay changing a chassi tag just got a whole lot easyer... not gona say how lol
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Postby fivebob » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:53 pm

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gleem wrote:i'll be looking at importing an altezza sometime next year, what are the chances of this actually going through tho?


Its going through. Deffinitely.

Have you actually read the LTSA page?

They're still calling for submissions so it isn't "definite" yet. Even if it passes in it's current form it won't be until 2010 that cars must have been manufactured to 2004 standards. Until then cars would have to meet 2000/02 standards, which most cars manufactured in Japan from 1998 will do.

Instead of scare mongering, why don't you suggest what an appropriate submission would be to get the outcome you wish, but still be enviromentally responsible?

Just saying you don't want any changes to the existing rules isn't going to fly, however subtle changes to the propsed rules may help. e.g. Emissions testing rather than standards compliance would at least give you an oppurtunity to import earlier manufactured vehicles that would comply with the standards, even if they weren't built to them.
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Postby method » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:36 pm

I think its a good idea in the long run, it should be slowly brught down from the 10 years it is now though. Not suddenly.

Another problems is that we will see way more older trucks on the road, rather than companies buying newer trucks they will keep their old ones for longer and repair them when broken rather than replace them.

So initially it would probably make problems worse with more people hanging on to old inefficent cars.

They need emitions testing. A 5 year old car could be way worse than a well maintained 10 year old car.
In saying that my corolla and many other modified cars would fail miserably.
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Postby B ROWDY » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:36 pm

Its not going through yet, its still under public consultation and as its election year next year helmet head wont want to rock her already unstable and fast filling with water and useless promises boat anymore than she needs to
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Postby johntramp » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:47 pm

but we dont even need to run cat converters here :?
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Postby sergei » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:54 pm

This is stupid, how many people live in NZ and how many cars we have compare to other countries? The USA should get a hit like that, well slightly different, just put enourmous tax on large V8s, that should cut emmisions allright.
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Postby pc » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:59 pm

I guess what we really need is some exceptions written into the new rules that allow for people like us who want a car that accelerates far too quickly on a hotted up old engine with all the emmission controls removed :lol:

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Postby snwtoy » Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:54 pm

I'm in full support of this one. First thing they've done right with regard to transport in ages.
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Postby fangsport » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:07 pm

snwtoy wrote: First thing they've done right with regard to transport in ages.
is that another Tui billboard??

if it comes in, those with a yard full of VX cruisers, safaris etc, will be able to justify increasing their window price overnight.
won't effect where i work too much, as nearly all our stock is sourced locally. but there will be huge redunancies in the associated auto trades.
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Postby snwtoy » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:15 pm

fangsport wrote:
snwtoy wrote: First thing they've done right with regard to transport in ages.
is that another Tui billboard??


Not at all. This is in no way a solution to our crazy reliance on cars, but at least it's a step in the right direction. NZ as a country (auckland + welly in particular) cannot grow it's economy while we're so reliant on cars for transport.
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Postby fivebob » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:26 pm

Whilst I agree with the idea of lowering emissions, I definitely don't agree with doing it based on production standards. If the vehicle wasn't manufactured to those standards then you can't import it, even if it does comply with the standards.

IMHO it would be much bettter, and more equitable, if you could comply any vehicle that passed a standard emission test. However past experience with the frontal impact law, and to a lesser extent the noisy vehicle rules, has shown that the LTSA has no interest in being fair, they just want to be bureaucratic. So you have to play them at their own game and flood them with paperwork, hence why a petition will have no effect, but a submission (or better still multiple submissions) may just sway their opinion ;)
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