Confirmed! Toyota & Subaru co-developed RWD cars for 201

[rolla_fxgt]

Here's the link http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/toyota-confirms-rwd-sports-car-coming-in-2011-with-subaru-boxer/

Its going to have a boxer engine, though no word on specs yet. I'd assume a 2.5 boxer like in the legacy & impreza, maybe a turbo version too.

Is this going to be a worthy ae86 replacement though?

[Mr.Phreak]

Pretty much any modern car is a step up from the AE86

[postfach]

The replacement for the AE86 was the AE92.

This is a new car.

[rolla_fxgt]

I'm just pee'd off its so ugly looking, reminds me of a shrunken svx, and perhaps a bit of the last celica

[postfach]

I'm just pee'd off its so ugly looking, reminds me of a shrunken svx, and perhaps a bit of the last celica

It looks quite a bit like the celica eh, esp the way they've drawn the tail lights. Heaps of modern cars out of japan are pretty fugly eh, I'm more into older, "square" cars with hard edges, or if I had to choose modern, it would be something German.

[Bling]

The replacement for the AE86 was the AE92.

This is a new car.

about time someone stated the obvious so all the dreamers out there can realise there will not be another ae86

[Dragger_Dan]

That doesn't look too bad tho

[cat007]

That doesn't look too bad tho

As soon as I see that I think - new celica and honda mashed together

[Bling]

I think celica / austin martin

[Snoozin]

That doesn't look too bad tho

As soon as I see that I think - new celica and honda mashed together

Haha looks like a DC5 Integra and a Hyundai made sweet love in a wreckers yard.

This thread is a case in point why oldschool is approximately 4.68 million times better. I bet no one looked at a Mark 1 Cortina and said, "shit, that looks like a Buick!"

[JustinSpiderholden]

Eww what are toyota thinking, i wouldnt touch a subaru motor with a 100 ft pole

[darkwolf]

^ As above. Damn that looks nice... /me counts pennies... never gonna be enough pennies

[Lith]

I think celica / austin martin

Austin marton - mint hahaha.

What a weird combination though, Toyota and Subaru. An NA boxer motor of all things I guess if you want to make B16A power and torque from a 2litre which uses more fuel than a JZA80.

[Snoozin]

Aston Martin.

Heathens.

[Bling]

yeah I knew it didn't look right

[Dell'Orto]

I guess if you want to make B16A power and torque from a 2litre which uses more fuel than a JZA80.

I know B16A's are pretty gutless, but geez, they arent that bad!

[rollaholic]

seriously subaru make chronically shit engines.

i cannot for the life of me work out how they are still in business.

wtf is wrong with a toyota engine?!

[Lith]

Aston Martin.

Heathens.

I WAS MOCKING HEEM!!!

I guess if you want to make B16A power and torque from a 2litre which uses more fuel than a JZA80.

I know B16A's are pretty gutless, but geez, they arent that bad!

Heard rumour they were targetting 120-130kw with a new wanked up EJ20 hahaha. It wouldn't be the standard issue NA EJ20 which would be lucky to match a bluetop 4AGE.

[cogent]

guys you might just get your 'new 86' afterall.
http://www.7tune.com/?p=112

The Test Mule

The test mule is actually still very early in it’s development and in its experimental stage being based on a shortened Subaru Legacy chassis and running a SOHC 2.0L flat-four engine. Best Car isn’t aware of any wheelbase measurements at this time, but going by reports the test mule chassis is around 200mm shorter than it’s Legacy donor platform. The Legacy underpinnings are for experimental purposes only as the new Toyota Lightweight Sports Car will actually be based on a shortened Impreza 15S platform which is better suited to a smaller 1.5 - 2.0L (flat-four) engine and has ‘rear wheel drive friendly’ double wishbone rear suspension. The test mule is in very early stages with the car running the aforementioned 2.0L SOHC engine and a 4WD driveline (without front drive shafts) so it isn’t undergoing any serious performance driving tests at this point in time. Apparently Toyota has the ability to have this new lightweight sports car ready and on the market by the end of next year… if only they were so inclined. Instead, a lot of effort is being put into getting the most performance while keeping the retail price below 2,000,000 yen.

And also interesting (from the same article)

Why a 1.5L engine?

Price seems to be the limiting factor regarding the type of engine, and therefore total weight, of the Toyota Lightweight Sports Car. Best Car has been told that if a larger 2.0L engine were to be used, the cost of the car would definitely rise above the 2,000,000 yen limit and would then not live up to its ‘Entry Level Sports Car’ namesake. Also the rear differential sourced from Subaru (from the Impreza 15S) has been cited as a weak link, it being limited to engines of 2.0L capacity or under for reliability concerns. The 1.5L engine - named ‘EL15′ - is a DOHC flat-four powerplant and is also noted for producing less emissions than it’s larger SOHC sibling which is another important criteria that Toyota is trying to address. The EL15 only puts out 110ps @ 6,400rpm and 14.7kg/m @ 3,200rpm so Toyota is doing its best to lighten the chassis and body as much as possible in order to give the car a reasonable amount of performance. Just how much weight can be shed? Toyota is aiming for 1100kg and no more… this is another reason why the 2.0L engine was rejected as the larger engine would dictate a heavier chassis which in turn would exceed the 1100kg (total vehicle) weight limit by 100kg or more, even with considerable weight reduction. Only so much weight can be shed, and only so much can be done to keep the Lightweight Sports Car within the 2,000,000 yen limit so Toyota has a big job on its hands to address these issues and will certainly be an ongoing problem throughout the development cycle.

hopefully this car will finally shut those gimps up about 'new hachiroku san!!' Thats japanese for 86, as in AE86. You baka gaijin will never know the culture of honour from glorious nippon.

[d1 mule]

The replacement for the AE86 was the AE92.

This is a new car.

about time someone stated the obvious so all the dreamers out there can realise there will not be another ae86

maybe so but ae92s are up to less than $&#$% all compared to a ae86.......anyone with half a brain knows that


and as for this.........hmmmmm shit motor and looks mediocore at best