Formula One 2010

[mr30%jr]

4. F1 sounds cool....

[fivebob]

You forgot a few things.

So did you, or you're just ignoring them because they don't fit you viewpoint

1. Alonso is clearly quicker in the races and Qualifying than Massa

1. Massa is leading the championship

2. As above with Hamilton over Button

2. As above, Button is higher in the championship standings than Hamilton.

3. As above with Vettel over Webber

Ok you got me there Webber is clearly a #2 driver, he makes too many mistakes to win a championship. However given Red Bull's reliability problems this season they would be silly to adopt a #1 driver this early in the season.

It is clear to me if the above teams choose not to have these guys fight it out for the title and keep harping on there's no clear No.1 drivers in the above teams I really think the teams are fooling themselves and if they keep the no No.1 driver line the Alonso's Hamilton's and Vettel's will be the one's who suffer.

Luckily for the teams you are not making the decisions about strategy.

Championships are not about who is the fastest, they are about who is the most consistent, especially when the grid is separated but such small margins. The championship is a long haul, and the first 4 flyaway races are somewhat of an anomaly because it's not easy to develop the car from a distance. IMHO it would be stupid for any team to adopt a #1 driver strategy this early in the season.

Also you seem to be forgetting that there are two championships at stake. While the majority of fans focus solely on the drivers championship and ignore the constructors championship, it's important to the teams. After all F1 is a team event.

Adopting a #1 driver strategy demoralises the driver relegated to the #2 position and they are very likely to perform under their potential and cost the team valuable points. All the drivers in the top teams believe they can win the championship this year and if you take away that motivation their performance will suffer.

FIA's mistake continually changing the Rules has also downgraded the grid alot as I'd rather see BMW Honda and Toyota than Lotus D'Spania and the Brandson owned Virgin.

The manufacturers didn't leave because of the rule changes, they left because of the economic climate and the lack of results. Manufacturers are always fickle like that and the majority will not stay for more than a few years at a time. On the other hand the lesser teams tend to stick around, albeit changing owners several times in the process, and some of them even rise to the top occasionally.

May I suggest you watch F1 for a few more years before criticising team strategy lest you be made to eat your words at the end of the season. The team management do get it wrong sometimes, but they are right far more often than the fans give them credit for.

[2jayzgte]

Yep thats right thats why Ferrari brought Alonso to Ferrari to play 2nd fiddle to a guy like Massa who has proven he can't get it done.If you think Ferrari are pretending to think that Alonso is'nt the No.1 your fooling yourself you don't bring a guy like Alonso into your team to be a no.2 driver.Massa is winning the race now but its early days and i think i've mentioned in the end the cream will rise and Alonso will establish himself as the clear No.1

Vice a versa with Hamilton they can say whatever they like at Mclaren Hamilton is the No.1 driver what ever they want to say there just being PC.

If I were a betting man and had a million dollars to put on likely guys to win the F-1 crown I'll tell you right now it would be Hamilton and Alonso over Button and Massa everyday of the week.

[scootevo]

My Million would be on Vettell

[JustinSpiderholden]

At the moment, Button is Beating Hamilton, it simple he scored more points, Massa has scored more than Teflonso pretty simple if you have scored more points your obviously doing something better than your team mate

Webber is a number two

[fivebob]

Oh No!!!!!!!

One of those second rate drivers had the audacity to win a race (again), and shock horror he's leading the championship... What's the world coming to that these upstarts don't know their rightful place

[2jayzgte]

OMG that must mean Buttons going to win the Championship then...lol..lol.

If your so confident in either Massa or Button winning you should put money on them to win it all.

As I've said I'd take Hamilton and Alonso all day over Button and Massa and before you ask yes I have money on it.

[JustinSpiderholden]

OMG that must mean Buttons going to win the Championship then...lol..lol.

If your so confident in either Massa or Button winning you should put money on them to win it all.

As I've said I'd take Hamilton and Alonso all day over Button and Massa and before you ask yes I have money on it.

Hamilton need to learn how to manage his tyres, and Alonso need to learn how to start before that going to happen, plus also get a motor that last more than a few laps, will be intresting to see how he manages his 6 remaining engines over the remaining 14 races especally with engine killers Spa and Monza to come.

Jenson is fully sticking it to Lewis at the moment loving it, plus Webbers constant failures only Austrilians could think he could be a World Champion

[Mr Revhead]

I would hardly say sticking it to him. Only 11 points in it... you now get 10 for 4th so its close.

Just saw a replay of Alonse vs massa (missed race) that was definitely a dodgy move... I bet the only reason he didn't get another drive through was there is no specific rule against it, but there must be some tension at Ferrari now!

[JustinSpiderholden]

I would hardly say sticking it to him. Only 11 points in it... you now get 10 for 4th so its close.

Just saw a replay of Alonse vs massa (missed race) that was definitely a dodgy move... I bet the only reason he didn't get another drive through was there is no specific rule against it, but there must be some tension at Ferrari now!

Was intresting that we normally get to hear some of the conversation between Smedley and Massa but after that incident nothing was broadcast

I've got a funny feeling that things are Maranello will be slighly like Mclaren was in 2007 after Hungary

[Mr Revhead]

Too many beeps

Hmmm common demoninator is.....

[2jayzgte]

I think that move Alonso pulled on Massa going into the pits was much like Hamilton's move on Vettel.I agree Hamilton does need to be able to take care of his tyres but it was clear to see he was the quickest guy out there and if he had'nt had to come from so far back I'm pretty sure he would have nailed Button.

I just think that Button is much like Massa and Webber if its not laid on a plate for them and if the situations were reversed with the above mentioned there just not coming through the field like Hamilton Alonso and like Vettel tried and its clear to me at Ferrari I think Massa is a gary goner after this year and Kubica will be the red team will go after.

Lets be serious here if it wasn't for Hamiltons all out attacking driving style that race last night would have been a snore.I loved watching him cut people to shreds in the wet some of those moves he was putting on people were MINT and this is coming from a Ferrari Fan aswell but I know great driving when I see it and in my view Hamilton was in a league of his own last night.

[fivebob]

Hmmm common demoninator is.....

One of the drivers is not a team player

[thornz]

3 weeks is such a long time to wait for a race.

In the mean time, ever wondered what the drivers are really doing when they fiddle with all those knobs in the cockpit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N2k6C3s ... r_embedded

[Adamal]

Holy shit Webber...... He was on FIRE! Top effort.

[2jayzgte]

Agreed Webber was on fire.

But what concerns me is teams like DeSpania Cosworth and Lotus how really slow they are I saw on several occasions during the Spanish GP where basically they were that slow they were just about causing accidents.Man I can't believe how much slower these guys are compared to the fast boys,in some case's its 4-6 seconds a lap....

[callum]

These slow backmarkers are probably the only thing that will make the next race interesting though.

[Adamal]

Only 3 replies regarding the past race?

Toyspeed, I am disappoint.

The Petrov/Kobayashi duel was quite interesting. Close racing there, and Petrov obviously having the better car too. Glab Kob got to finish a race. Did quite well actually, considering he got a shunt at the start of the race by Kubica! Probably would have been in the top 10 if not for that!

[Mr Revhead]

No Sky so I don't get to see races now.
http://www.planetf1.com/news/18227/6146 ... -to-retire

Yikes!

[Scrunty]

^^ No sky must be a bit of a shitter mate, we upgraded to mysky.. nice being able to watch the full replay over dinner on a monday (and then the motogp, gp2, wsbk etc )

That was interesting listening in to vettels team radio near the end there.. something along the lines of 'This is critial Seb, your brakes are going to fail - slow down'
I'm a button hater so it was disapointing to see Hamtron go out on the second to last lap (also in the name of a good championship - would have had him in the mix with the other three/four drivers near the top)

Alonso still the quiet points earner, i've got $50 on him at $3.80 for the championship (placed before the season started)