shitty way to lose a young life,

[maddog]

S T E A L T H: I still stand by my statement that drink driving is by far the main factor in NZ road crashes...

There is a graph in that article for fatal crashes which states that 14% are 'Alcohol/drugs', 16% 'Alcohol/drugs/speed' (I think we can safely assume alcohol is the main factor here), 16% is 'Speed' and 54% is 'Other'.

That gives us 30% for alcohol related, 16% for speed and 54% for other. One presumes if there was any other factor weighing in a large total they'd specify it. Now this is rough science but I think it's fair to say it backs up my claim.

On a side note, I think it's great that TSers are having a healthy debate about these issues of the times!

[Mr Revhead]

other at 54% = Not knowing how to drive but the government will not admit the anti speed and anti drink focus is wrong.

[maddog]

Lol I do agree somewhat with Mr Revhead.... 54% is a lot of otherness... you gotta wonder what really makes up that total

[duddley]

It would probably be idiots on open road cutting corners and overtaking on stupid places. If you drive down coatesville- riverhead highway or the Manawatu gorge you will see what i mean about cutting corners

[metal_sean_head]

Lol I do agree somewhat with Mr Revhead.... 54% is a lot of otherness... you gotta wonder what really makes up that total

Swerving to miss animals ?!?!

[TRD Man]

In the 70's, in the debate leading up to drunk driving becoming a criminal offence a well known NZ comedian joked on TV that, if statistics show 30% of accidents involve drunk drivers that must mean 70% are caused by sober drivers. Shouldn't we get the sober drivers off the road so that we drunks can drive in safety?

It was a joke, but it also had a message which was picked up by a group of academics from Canterbury University.

If the majority of accidents involve people who are sober wouldn't it be reasonable to assert that the reasons for those accidents occurring would also be present in accidents involving people who had been drinking, and that it was they, and not the mere act of being over the drinking limit which was the root cause of the accidents? And shouldn't we be looking to solve those issues?

One of the problems with statistics such as the drink driving ones is that they don't reflect reality and can be manipulated to support any argument you wish and have been, by politicians, for decades.

[maddog]

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics

[Mr Revhead]

It would probably be idiots on open road cutting corners and overtaking on stupid places. If you drive down coatesville- riverhead highway or the Manawatu gorge you will see what i mean about cutting corners

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3763995 ... st-drivers

no noes!!!


i bet it's not as bad as it looks though. Doesn't look to be a blind corner to me

[1I1]

Meanwhile in another paper "Commodore partially blocks lane in Manawatu Gorge causing motorists to travel in oncoming lane"


Made up, but would be funny

[metal_sean_head]

When i first saw that stuff picture i was like oh what he is only like a tad on the yellow lines but then i realised he was in th wrong lane.

Yeah brain fade.

[Bling]

I thought 'over taking' on double yellow lines was dangerous driving? So lose of license + fines / whatever. That's what they should all be hit with.

I know that's what happened to someone that used to frequent these boards back in the good ol days

[Al]

It would probably be idiots on open road cutting corners and overtaking on stupid places. If you drive down coatesville- riverhead highway or the Manawatu gorge you will see what i mean about cutting corners

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3763995 ... st-drivers

no noes!!!


i bet it's not as bad as it looks though. Doesn't look to be a blind corner to me

Thats nothing. I see worse on Dyers Pass Rd every night.

[duddley]

It was on the news a few weeks ago that the cops are hiding in the gorge with video cameras.

[andrewgreen1000]

It would probably be idiots on open road cutting corners and overtaking on stupid places. If you drive down coatesville- riverhead highway or the Manawatu gorge you will see what i mean about cutting corners

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3763995 ... st-drivers

no noes!!!


i bet it's not as bad as it looks though. Doesn't look to be a blind corner to me

Thats nothing. I see worse on Dyers Pass Rd every night.

Yeah. Every time i go over Dyers pass road there seems to be a muppet doing something stupid like this.But the worst is my friends dad who lives in Wainui (over on the peninsula) and works here in Chch, he is the scariest driver and really bad for doing these types of things, on the hills to Akaroa he drives around most of the blind corners in the wrong lane, it was the first time I have ever actually feared for my life in a car. Drivers like this should be taken off the roads, i.e. loss of licence, and mandatory driving schools again etc?

[pc]

Yeah. Every time i go over Dyers pass road there seems to be a muppet doing something stupid like this.But the worst is my friends dad who lives in Wainui (over on the peninsula) and works here in Chch, he is the scariest driver and really bad for doing these types of things, on the hills to Akaroa he drives around most of the blind corners in the wrong lane, it was the first time I have ever actually feared for my life in a car. Drivers like this should be taken off the roads, i.e. loss of licence, and mandatory driving schools again etc?

So did you punch him in the face and tell him how it is?

[B1NZ]

i bet it's not as bad as it looks though. Doesn't look to be a blind corner to me

I think you may be right as there used to be a couple of places in the Manawatu Gorge where you could pass quite easily but some idiot council with an excess of yellow paint decided to start putting yellow paint everywhere, The same seems to have happened between Otaki and Levin, there used to be a few places where you could pass without passing lanes but it seems to be yellow paint friggen everywhere now

[Al]

Yeah. Every time i go over Dyers pass road there seems to be a muppet doing something stupid like this.But the worst is my friends dad who lives in Wainui (over on the peninsula) and works here in Chch, he is the scariest driver and really bad for doing these types of things, on the hills to Akaroa he drives around most of the blind corners in the wrong lane, it was the first time I have ever actually feared for my life in a car. Drivers like this should be taken off the roads, i.e. loss of licence, and mandatory driving schools again etc?

Someone shunted one of the armcos tonight around 7ish in the rain on the 35km/h corner next to the Victoria Park service entrance. Looked messy.

[andrewgreen1000]

So did you punch him in the face and tell him how it is?

Not quite, I'm not going to punch a 55+ year old man in the face, but I gave him a piece of my mind! hopefully made him think about it a bit. A cop going over at the same time as him wouldn't be a bad idea.

Someone shunted one of the armcos tonight around 7ish in the rain on the 35km/h corner next to the Victoria Park service entrance. Looked messy.

Shit hope the person that hit the armco is ok? look like their fault? or were they avoiding someone going the wrong way kinda deal?

[S T E A L T H]

Oh dear

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/3770036/Mayor-nicked-at-142kmh-loses-licence

serves him right for voting to lower the speed limit

[Adamal]

Oh that is fantastic....