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Postby Adamal » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:32 pm

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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:14 pm

Man I own a Supra but I have to say its tough trying to say that a Supra is a better all round car than a NSX real tough as the NSX is a GREAT car and I'm talking at the top of the food chain when it comes to out and out performance.

It does'nt help when Artyon Senna helped with chasiss development of the above mentioned Honda so the Honda Toyota arguement for me is horses for courses.
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Postby skoty » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:36 am

Boosted_162 wrote:Theres nothing wrong with the cars themselves (well maybe subbies :lol:)


A chick back when I was at school did her speech on about how much she loved Subarus - What a disaster :lol:
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Postby rollaholic » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:11 am

did she know what she was talking about, or was it "they sound rilly cool like burbbbbb and go PSH!"
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Postby skoty » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:15 pm

rollaholic wrote:did she know what she was talking about, or was it "they sound rilly cool like burbbbbb and go PSH!"


Pretty much :lol: Although she knew a few things but the speech didn't exactly get her top points
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Postby B1NZ » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:04 pm

skoty wrote:
A chick back when I was at school did her speech on about how much she loved Subarus - What a disaster :lol:


Most chicks love Subarus, the exhaust note gets them all wet in the lower regions - thats why some of you are against them :lol:
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Postby avinesh » Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:38 pm

B1NZ wrote:
skoty wrote:
A chick back when I was at school did her speech on about how much she loved Subarus - What a disaster :lol:


Most chicks love Subarus, the exhaust note gets them all wet in the lower regions - thats why some of you are against them :lol:


1jz now this thing sounds good on top end
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Postby Lith » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:35 pm

To be honest, I think you're not likely to come across as interesting or clever doing a "Toyota is better than Honda" speech to the general masses... save it for a debate if you are going to impress. But then you best win ;)
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Postby 79rolla » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:46 pm

haha yea sounds way better
and beleve me if i was in that dibate i would win!! i mean how could i not? :wink:
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Postby EVL20V » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:57 pm

i have had 5 toyotas, 2 mazdas, 6 nissans, 4 hondas, and toyotas have been the most problematic and fiddly. honda would be the top of list for reliability based on the cars ive owned. i wont go into performance details :P
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Postby 79rolla » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:09 pm

SHUN!! lolz oh well there are some exceptions to the rule the mazda and honda should be at the bottem in my books i mean iv had a few problems from my car but thats wat i get for tinkering with an old engin but i dought you could run most honda or mazda engins dry(on tthe dip stick) without any side affects except there isint as much smole (not alot to start wif tho) and i defanantly am not too kind to my lil OLD 4k
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Postby bbq1988 » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:09 am

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Postby SUBARUCONVERT » Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:07 pm

B1NZ wrote:
79rolla wrote:dont want to get off topic but i have seen alot of subbes broken down or crapping out (after spending a bit of time at micanics) and to add to it they are expencive to fix
the rally subbies would be good because they would be maintaind properly (even the most un reliabil engin will seem n reliabil if maintaind properly)


Your right, I have friends that swear that Rotary engines are reliable if maintained properly, The problem with that type of car as well as EJ20's etc is that they have a huge following and alot of munters buy them that don't know what the term "service" means



dead rite, alot of retards think the best way to get the most out of an engine is to hold it on or near the limiter, over 7k + EJ20 = bang
When u consider most early EJ20's drop off in power over 6k its not worth reving the shit out of them

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Postby MacrosSiR » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:31 pm

79rolla wrote:i dought you could run most honda or mazda engins dry(on tthe dip stick) without any side affects


ermmm....

no engine will run for very long with no oil in it.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:55 pm

You've never been around 4K's have you :lol:
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Postby 79rolla » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:05 pm

heh heh... not relly braging but my car runs with not alot of oil at all a coupple of times :oops: still havint fixed all the dam oil leaks sadly but it still runs fine :lol: GO THE HEARTY 4K!!! :P
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Postby Loudtoy » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:03 pm

MacrosSiR wrote:
79rolla wrote:i dought you could run most honda or mazda engins dry(on tthe dip stick) without any side affects


ermmm....

no engine will run for very long with no oil in it.


Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ive ot an L300 van as my work hack and that runs just fine with no oil (not reading on stick,oil presure light on sometimes) the only problem seems to be when the radiator splits and dumps its water in about 3 seconds flat 8O .
Other parts how ever (diff, wheel bearings, power steering rack, steering wheel worn to almost breaking point, rear main leakng meh he list is endless). And in my deffence i get a new wagon next time it breaks properly.
Also don't forget the mighty 4k, the most long lasting without doing anything to it motor ever made 0 hey went downhill with the introduction of efi on the 5k imho

PS unless the brief for your speech startd with "in your opinion" i wouldn't go and do a x = better than y speech because, unless you have done thousands of hours of research, tested cars and components untill they have boken etc then you can't really do it properly. Also be warned that your teacher may be a car nut, hate one brand or not got laid the night before and your marks will be very low for not having a good conclusive argument for why backed with hard fact.
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Postby 79rolla » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:46 pm

already talked to my teacher about it and shees fine with it and defanantly not a car nut
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Postby fangsport » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:21 am

MacrosSiR wrote:
79rolla wrote:i dought you could run most honda or mazda engins dry(on tthe dip stick) without any side affects


ermmm....

no engine will run for very long with no oil in it.
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:06 am

I think it doesn't really matter what content is in the speech as long as it has a good Introduction, good examples and a strong conclusion. They mark more on how the speech is crafted then what the content is, its about presenting an argument and backing it up with why you believe what you do and also your ability to present in front of an audience- confidence, clarity, engagement with audience etc.

Taking that into account it could still be a worthwhile topic if crafted correctly or even broadened to explain why Toyotas are the best car brand. Examples like now the worlds number one car seller, or my favourite example of why Toyota is awesome-in the 90's Ferrari hired a Toyota engineer to help them make their factories run a lot smarter.

I hope that info is valuable but I was top of English through the last three years of school so hope I know a wee bit of what I am talking about. :P
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