Cellphones and driving banned from Nov 1st

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Postby Akane » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:13 pm

Texting and driving = does not mix, I have done a lot of crazy sh1t in my driving life, but texting and driving... definitely #1 distraction.

But the thing is, New Zealand has a texting culture, in other parts of the world almost nobody use texting as a primary means of mobile communication, they all use a phone to CALL PEOPLE.

So anyways, this ban is not gonna work, people will still text coz it's only $10 a month to flirt with that slut that you've just met at the club the other night.

And woman can multitask better than men? ROFL. Just coz they can talk on the phone while making a meal it's not really multitasking, men and women can multitask just as well, it's a trained ability. Studies show, lol, you got conned by media. It's always "studies show somewhere..." but they can never find the source.
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Postby scotty_ish » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:33 pm

Typical NZ law, not going to fix the real issue, half the population can't drive for shit with or without distraction!

It amazes me how some people get their licence!!!
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:45 pm

scotty_ish wrote:Typical NZ law, not going to fix the real issue, half the population can't drive for sh*t with or without distraction!

It amazes me how some people get their licence!!!


agree
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:47 pm

Miss_S wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:bs law

if you can't drive and talk, then you have an issue

no extra law was needed for this, its already covered under exsisting laws.

yet again a knee jerk reaction to a vocal minority :roll:

and I1I is right, smoking or eating/drinking more dangerous.
as a isde note I rememebr being about 6 or 7 on a car trip, and telling my dad off for drinking and driving! he was drinking a coke :lol:


it's proven that talking on a cellphone reduces concentration on your driving.
it's also proven that men can't multitask
as well as women can
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disagree


it's not about cell phones etc, it's about basic driving ability.

so we really should have laws banning:
doing a crossword while driving
thinking about the ex that just dumped you while driving
talking to the ppl in your car
changing cd's
using an RT or CB
etc etc
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Postby Mr.Phreak » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:57 pm

I know more people that have crashed trying to perv at chicks wearing $&#$% all than when using cell phones

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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:16 pm

as above!

had waaaay more near misses for that than using my phone! :lol:
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Postby Zitchu » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:53 pm

Am also guilty of that almost drive up somebodies arse who had stopped to pull into a drive because of that :lol:
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Postby GTCRSHR » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:35 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:as above!

had waaaay more near misses for that than using my phone! :lol:


dont drive through the country side then :twisted:
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Postby B1NZ » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:06 pm

IMO its a good idea that is long overdue, I do alot of driving in my work and most people doing stupid things alot of the time have a phone against thier ear while doing it.

I know from personal experience I am not a safe driver while talking on the phone, I nearly went up the rear end of a car once, so now I pull over to talk
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Postby peas » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:14 pm

I'm with the "whats the point" crowd on this one. Most people seem to drive slower while talking on a phone, somewhat annoying. I don't see what the difference is between talking on a phone and talking to a passenger... Other than the fact that you could have two hands on the wheel... which I very rarely do anyway, god bless the lazy automatic!

Overview... total bollocks... plenty of other things to address! Like my pet hate... people not accelerating to motorway speed until they are trying to merge with the traffic on it! :evil:
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Postby loudstealthGT-Four » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:17 pm

I think it's a good thing..... But..... Doin anything while driving it distcacting and can cause an accident in the right situations
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Postby sergei » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:48 am

peas wrote:I'm with the "whats the point" crowd on this one. Most people seem to drive slower while talking on a phone, somewhat annoying. I don't see what the difference is between talking on a phone and talking to a passenger... Other than the fact that you could have two hands on the wheel... which I very rarely do anyway, god bless the lazy automatic!

Overview... total bollocks... plenty of other things to address! Like my pet hate... people not accelerating to motorway speed until they are trying to merge with the traffic on it! :evil:

Yeah, luckily they just installed a second lane (with on ramp lights) on the on ramp I use and I can pass all people (from left side :twisted: ) that wank at 50 there.
If some copper gives me shit about using the left lane on on-ramp, I will ask him/her to point where in Road Code it is prohibited to utilise left lane where it is available, if he goes about me overtaking on left, I will say what is the difference to passing some one on left when there are 2 lanes on motorway/road?

I disagree that talking to cellphone is equivalent to talking with passenger, most of the times other person has no idea that you drive, passenger will shut up if there is something going on (or even make signal/sound), forcing you to pay attention. You can also stop talking with passenger, while people tend to prioritize cell phone conversation without even realising it. When people talk on cellphone their driving goes in background, when people talk to passengers their talking is in the background - driving is higher priority, as people tend to shape the conversation flow around the driving, also there is no pressure in finishing conversation ASAP as you can pause and continue after an important manoeuvre, while with cellphone you cannot hold it for 30 sec without an advance warning, which normally you don't have.
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Postby soven » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:08 am

stop complaining about NZ law. It is about time they implemented it.

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Postby tsoob » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:13 am

Miss_S wrote:
it's proven that talking on a cellphone reduces concentration on your driving.
it's also proven that men can't multitask
as well as women can
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men are always multitasking, their first thought is always about getting laid :D
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:25 am

sergei wrote:I disagree that talking to cellphone is equivalent to talking with passenger, most of the times other person has no idea that you drive, passenger will shut up if there is something going on (or even make signal/sound), forcing you to pay attention. You can also stop talking with passenger, while people tend to prioritize cell phone conversation without even realising it. When people talk on cellphone their driving goes in background, when people talk to passengers their talking is in the background - driving is higher priority, as people tend to shape the conversation flow around the driving, also there is no pressure in finishing conversation ASAP as you can pause and continue after an important manoeuvre, while with cellphone you cannot hold it for 30 sec without an advance warning, which normally you don't have.


so you cant talk and drive and pay attention to your surroundings?
maybe I have a unique skill then.
i've never had a problem talking on the phone and paying attention to whats going on. and i still manage to ID hazards in time to avoid them before panic stopping becomes nessicary.
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Postby SkylineObsession » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:26 am

I'm all for this law. I rarely text and drive, but thats cos i'm hopeless at it. :?
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Postby Timmo » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:50 am

Im all for it- Remember that use of hands free kit is still allowed- Im not sure if anyone can argue a one armed driver is as safe as a two armed driver (i.e. someone talking on a cell phone only has one hand avaliable) regardless of whether they are talking or not.

I was very happy to see that the new road safety strategy will focus on DISTRACTION as a major cause of dangerous driving which I think is a move in the right direction.

A distracted/inattentive driver at 100km/h is far more dangerous than a alert/focused driver a 110 km/h yet none of the adverts/strategies address this....the current 'Speed Kills' ad simply states that driving over the speed limit is inherently dangerous and will kill you.
So, it seems, we have a nation of drivers that focus on everything except driving well in the belief that if they stay at or under the speed limit they will be safe- driving with one hand resting on the top of the steering wheel, looking at the scenery, thinking about something else....
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Postby durty starlet » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:15 am

Timmo wrote:Im all for it- Remember that use of hands free kit is still allowed- Im not sure if anyone can argue a one armed driver is as safe as a two armed driver (i.e. someone talking on a cell phone only has one hand avaliable) regardless of whether they are talking or not.



one of our family friends is missing his left arm and he drives a manual so has to shift with his right hand aka no hands on the wheel

i feel safer being in his car than most people because he knows to keep his distance etc
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Postby sergei » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:18 am

I would even go as far as saying that a person talking on the phone at 70 is far more dangerous than person doing 120. Person texting at 50 is far more dangerous than person doing 120. Texting and driving is really stupid thing to do, just like driving with closed eyes one handed. I would go as far as saying people who text and drive are as stupid those who drink and drive.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:05 pm

Txting is another issue. shouldnt be doing it!
Talking on the phone, if your not confident (and you know if you can or cant) then dont do it. simple as that. some ppl can't focus on more than one thing at once, other ppl can

i've spent years having to use phones c/bs r/ts etc while driving and see no issue with it
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