Formula One 2011

[Mr Ree]

I love seeing corporations make threats and then fail to follow through with them.

Im guessing LRGP's board are made up entirely of Kiwis, hence the huge Yeahnah

[GTTpower]

Sounds like a good compromise.
Not suprised ferrari isnt keen, their brand screams anti-turbo.

[Mr Revhead]

Hmmm I wouldn't say that. 288gto? F40?

[GTTpower]

Should have be more specific, current line-up

[Mr Revhead]

Yeah, but Ferrari are big on brand history and emotion.
And I would be very surprised if there isn't turbo models in the pipeline for them.
Say a V6 twin turbo model

[Mr Ree]

Luca said a year or so ago that he thinks they should be V6 at the very least, I must say I agree.

Just alot higher revving than the proposed donks, and with 80psi up them

[JustinSpiderholden]

Renault lost the riught to appeal the Team Lotus Decsion

Intresting as Bahar had advised if they lost appeal or didn't get right to appeal they would re-evaulate ther F1 participation

Very intresting, I get the feeling the Renault F1 team is now a sinking ship

All the talented staff are bailing out

Contsant money problem rumors

Where theres smoke there usally fire

I feel sorry for Renault but can't wait to watch cock face Bahar fail

[Mr Ree]

Yeah...but the french have got alot to answer for

[2jayzgte]

Doesn't look good for anyone else this weekend,RBR benefit here well if quali is anything to go by.

[OllieS]

It will be really dissapointing to see a great team like Renault disappear from F1, especially when they are ruined by someone using them to fight a personal battle.

Mind you, I will hold out till someone makes an official post about it. I don't really trust Fernandes to tell the full true story, and his twitter wouldn't really allow for it anyway.

In other news, FIA engine mapping clampdown has no effect on qualifying top order whatsoever other than to maybe benefit Ferrari? Regardless we still see Red Bull/Vettel at the top by 0.5 s. Personally I am hoping for the blown cold blown diffuser ban to hurt Red Bull, but i'm not holding my breath.

[OllieS]

Well, disapointingly it seems like LRGP is getting more and more ruined with each passing new announcement.

First Adrian Newey claims they will get punished by diffuser clampdown more than anyone else.

Now there are rumours that Renault is looking for a works tie up with Williams or Team Lotus. I wonder what LRGP did to not be considered in the group? Mind you, Renault could just be looking to capitalise on teams that are a little out of the order atm so it looks like their sponsorship was just what the team needed.

Mind you, rumours are rumours.. I just hope for Kubica's sake that LRGP can keep its shit together.

[2jayzgte]

I think we may aswell start a 2012 thread up for next season because this one is history especially after hearing Button and Hamilton's comments mentioning how far they are off the RBR's and when hearing Alonso say they still got a chance man I gotta think he hasn't convinced me.

[JustinSpiderholden]

Well, disapointingly it seems like LRGP is getting more and more ruined with each passing new announcement.

First Adrian Newey claims they will get punished by diffuser clampdown more than anyone else.

Now there are rumours that Renault is looking for a works tie up with Williams or Team Lotus. I wonder what LRGP did to not be considered in the group? Mind you, Renault could just be looking to capitalise on teams that are a little out of the order atm so it looks like their sponsorship was just what the team needed.

Mind you, rumours are rumours.. I just hope for Kubica's sake that LRGP can keep its shit together.

What did LRGP do to annoy Renault, they allowed Dany Bahar to run the show

Dany Bahar is not well liked within F1 circles, I think Renault are now realising this and that the money is going to run out shortly at LRGP so rather than contuining with them I think theya re looking to get a work type tie up with a team who give them the best chance of great results moving forwards, I'm thinking Williams are looking odds on here

[Mr Ree]

I think we may aswell start a 2012 thread up for next season because this one is history especially after hearing Button and Hamilton's comments mentioning how far they are off the RBR's and when hearing Alonso say they still got a chance man I gotta think he hasn't convinced me.

I agree with you to a point mate, but I think you need to hold off that judgement until after Silverstone. If RBR walk it again, then unless Seb injures himself I will concede that he is a shoe in for the title.

With RBR playing down the effect that the ban on off throttle hot blown diffusers will have on them, but then Newey contradicting that by saying he expects his team to lose more than most due to the fact that their entire car was designed around this system, we might see a far closer pack over the next 10 races and it will only take 2 or 3 bad races for RBR in order for the championship to tighten right back up.

My fingers are firmly crossed for this scenario

[2jayzgte]

I think we may aswell start a 2012 thread up for next season because this one is history especially after hearing Button and Hamilton's comments mentioning how far they are off the RBR's and when hearing Alonso say they still got a chance man I gotta think he hasn't convinced me.

I agree with you to a point mate, but I think you need to hold off that judgement until after Silverstone. If RBR walk it again, then unless Seb injures himself I will concede that he is a shoe in for the title.

With RBR playing down the effect that the ban on off throttle hot blown diffusers will have on them, but then Newey contradicting that by saying he expects his team to lose more than most due to the fact that their entire car was designed around this system, we might see a far closer pack over the next 10 races and it will only take 2 or 3 bad races for RBR in order for the championship to tighten right back up.

My fingers are firmly crossed for this scenario

This is my point though because to bring RBR back to the pack the governing body is changing the playing field so everyone has a chance.I don't see it as a flip flop from Newey as at the begining of the season everyone had the same chance to hone there designs to get the best out of what they could bring to the table and now the fact that RBR are that far ahead and the others can't catch them the FIA have change the rules it sounds terribly weak to me and to be honest what it basically comes down to is that under the current rules RBR have exploited it better than your Ferrari's and Mclarens.

To me this is really weak I'd leave it as is and the rest should have to take there medicine and RBR should'nt get punished for doing a better job than everyone else.

[Mr Revhead]

I agree.

It's not some vague interpretation of a rule or anything. It's a rule change mid season. If it had safety implications then fair enough. But it doesn't.

[Mr Ree]

I see it from both sides though.

F1 has always done its best to reign in runaway leaders, its nothing new. Michael was the target of it for 5 years with constant rule changes to stop his running and hiding early in the season and thus destroying the casual viewing audience etc etc

But I dont really see this as a rule change, its just enforcement of a rule that was previously being given the benefit of the doubt in regards to its primary purpose.

Now, 8 races into the season, the FIA have deduced that it is a driver influenced aero device, and by the letter of the law, thats not allowed.

I hear you both though, middle of the season changes are not the best look for the sport, I guess Ive been a fan so long that Ive grown used to the constant tinkering from the governing body.

Lets wait and see anyway, even if RBR lose the most from it, I cant honestly see it being enough to turn the championship upside down, but if it closes the pack up a bit, we all get to enjoy a better season

[OllieS]

I think one of the most interesting thing that has come out of Valencia is McLaren making a flexi wing, then pointing a camera at it and putting it on clear display to the world.

Analysis (Craig Scarborough):
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/06/28/mclaren-european-gp-wing-movement/

Video:
http://www.twitvid.com/NLDQ1

Whiting/FIA can hardly ignore the flexing wing issue now, especially since they have to gone to so much trouble with the recent diffuser rule changes.

Also my favourite bit of radio in the whole race.


Edit: Some commentators are saying they did this deliberately, interesting thought

[thornz]

Should I buy one now, so when I win the lottery, I know how to fix this car?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Bull-Racing ... 550&sr=8-2

Could be pretty interesting.

[Mr Ree]

Haha thats classic

Looks like last years RB, but that won the cup anyway so with that said...

1st in line for a spin please, but after you of course