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by **AE86less** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:42 pm

Trouble is that to make it profitable for whoever did that they would have to be priced the same as most new cars, putting it out of the price range of it's main market.

by **strap-on** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:06 am

At least it would bring down the cost of the older ones

by **Grrrrrrr!** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:14 am

The main problem is that the number of countries that would allow you to sell an ae86 as new car is basically zero. You would have to re-engineer the car to meet modern safety & emission standards.. at which point its cheaper to find a similar dimensioned shell and graft the ae86 panels on.

by **Mr Revhead** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:01 am

for the price youd have to sell tham for, youd sell about 5.
btw the GT500s in the states are all converted from exsisting car

by **Drifter4ag** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:16 am

i like it ... if its 120ps and is no good boosted i would be pulling it out...in goes old faithfull turbo 4age or a 13bturbo ....

i would buy one.... but not brand new.... 1.5mil is cheap as for a new car ...so within a year you would get one for under 10k!

by **Azza-BZT** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:46 pm

Cool concept

However it'll obviously need a real power plant and firm suspension to gain maximum credibility!

by **strap-on** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:22 pm

On the building a "new" ae86 vein. I wonder what the feasibility of a replica kit car would be. I don't think these need all the modcons to be registered.
Although not the usual zippy sports car that kit cars are born from. A space frame with fibreglass or Alloy skin. And borrow the suspension from something there are heaps of like Altezzas or something.

Thats what I would like to see.

by **frost** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:17 pm

how about a company that does the same as the gt500, taking not real gt500 and restore them and re badged as gt500

so take sh!ted out AE85's and restore them and re-badge them AE86.

by **rollaholic** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:21 pm

i dont think 86's are worth enough yet for restoring 85s to be a profitable business.

by **Zak** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:08 pm

AE86's are far far too over priced at the moment.

They are fun cars and all, but really, for the price there are better options.

Scary thing is I'd spend 10k on another one, and probably will some day :oops:

by **rollaholic** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:53 pm

i love my 85.6, but i really dont think 86's are worth 10k, or even 5 tbh. for 10k you could pick up a really nice S13 or series 5 RX-7 or something... and lets face it, the only AE86s that can really be considered classics will be the ones that have been kept largely original.

by **Barks** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:19 pm

This drawing's been floating around the net for a while, but this thread is the perfect opportunity to drag it out again.....

THAT would be a spiritual successor for the AE86..... I'm thinking would have been based on the 2000-2001 altezza platform had it ever been put into concept or even production. Sadly it wasn't

by **frost** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:31 pm

10k is chump change compared to what they spend on them in japan, i dont think i can justify spending 10k on a car that is fully original, or any car for that matter, because it takes about 3k to get the ae86 to be a really good driving car,

dont bullsh!t people who drive AE85's secretly wish there chassis tag said AE86, you can say all you want about "huh i dont care if its a 85 or 86"
only people who a serious about racing wont care because they have gotten over the wow factor of the number 86, and they have most likely changed so many things on the car, they only care about how the chassis performs,

hell even i wish my levin,notch was a 86, it'd be nice to know it was worth more because its got one different number,

by **Zak** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:08 pm

The number makes all the difference to the price. One thing I would like to do is transfer every thing from my car to an 85 and restore my 86 back to factory condition.

It would be expensive yes, but so worth it in the end.

Of course the 85 would get caged for track duties

And that concept above looks very very nice, well for a new car at least.

by **solitaire** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:21 pm

Barks wrote:

Thats is absolutely beautifull....

by **frost** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:24 pm

that is fan art from one of the ae86 web sites NOT toyota, still looks good tho

by **Zak** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:26 pm

That may be the case, but that guy should be working for toyota, then they would be making some dam nice cars

by **barryogen** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:16 am

Mr Revhead wrote:btw the GT500s in the states are all converted from exsisting car

There is some guy making brand spanking new aluminium(aluminum for the yanks out there) chassis, it was on the news a few months ago.

meant to be about a 200kg weight saving, and stronger or something.

by **blackie** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:41 am

paying $1.5k for a 85 shell..... :lol:

how could it be a spiritual successor with a 1300

sounds lame

by **RunningRich** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:45 am

Given the specs it is the spiritual successor to the Toyota Cynos. Yippee...

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