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Postby RH9 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:52 am

Those Hondas never give up even when their out-gunned 4:1............so it has to be done - and done brutally :lol:

Why would i pick on my fellow big dog owners?? Together we fight against the evil Honda and Mitsi empires :P
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Postby audi man » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:29 am

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RH9 wrote:hahaha i destroyed a 2003 Type R Civic on the motorway this morning............it felt good to bully those shlt boxes :lol:

Cold air = happy turbo :P


Picking on NA Hondas? Sheesh... go find a Supra to scalp if you're going to do stuff like that :wink:
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Postby Snoozin » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:26 pm

RH9 wrote:hahaha i destroyed a 2003 Type R Civic on the motorway this morning............it felt good to bully those shlt boxes :lol:

Cold air = happy turbo :P


Awesome, I beat a 10 speed in my KP this morning, felt absolutely on top of the world etc. :lol:
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Postby RH9 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:34 pm

haha nice goin man, thats my other pet hate - cyclists who ride 2 or 3 abreast and get lippy when you come snorting past em with some boost :lol:

Honda drivers take the cake though :P
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Postby Lith » Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:44 pm

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Lith wrote:Picking on NA Hondas? Sheesh... go find a Supra to scalp if you're going to do stuff like that :wink:
lmao


See? Sounds like much more fun - got the most vocal reaction from you by suggesting that :P Isn't it much more invigorating comparing things which get a bit of blood pumping. See with an NA Honda, its just a case of smacking it down - even my POS can probably do that to any road going version I am aware of in NZ. A GTR is no NA Honda, here we have a car who the owner views as a track car that has done on street tires and pump gas a faster 1/4 mile time than your car you have being going to some lengths to go down the 1/4 mile for quite some time. Being that you can count on one hand the Supras in NZ that have done quicker times than him, and only one of those is not a tubbed pro-import drag car.... I don't think my statement is that laughable.

What do you reckon would get more people watching, talking, or participating?? A GTR vs. Honda match or a GTR vs. Supra one? If the Honda guys are getting a bit cocky, maybe a Nissan vs. Toyota day would be more fun... as clearly the only challenge for a Honda is another Honda.
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Postby pc » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:14 pm

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Postby 2jayzgte » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:45 pm

I think when it comes to going heads up it is alot easier down a 1/4 you can't see all the glaring weaknesses of a certain car over another.Where as on a track you can see everything how fast your car is how well it stops corners brakes how well the person can drive how well he or she knows a certain track.This in my view is why people are more into the drag racing as out on a circuit there is just no where to hide so if you pump yourself up with such things as dyno sheets and shiny big turbos and don't worry about such things as tires handling and stopping you'll get owned by less powerful or uninspiring cars where as down the 1/4 you can hide behind a dyno sheet and a big turbo.Over the years I have learnt alot of lessons at the track and the big thing for me is if you move to far in one area and don't move in the others its 1 step foward and 3 backwards...
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Postby Phothog » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:45 pm

RH9 wrote:Those Hondas never give up even when their out-gunned 4:1............so it has to be done - and done brutally :lol:


yea i've seen you with a hammer... ya need to hit it harder lol

RH9 wrote:Together we fight against the evil Honda and Mitsi empires :P


calm down RH9-Son, your time will come... on the track it will be done.
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Postby 4000GT » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:48 pm

yeah that was an awesome effort Matt... I would like to be adopted by your family :)

The V8 was incredibly fast but the GT3 brakes were a bit better :)

If the GT3 didnt stop so early do you think you were on pace with it?
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Postby Loudtoy » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:53 pm

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Loudtoy wrote:Oh yeah, and it was in a 20v reasonably standard just to prove a point :P
Oh and lith seeing as you seem to have something to do with bits and pieces over at nzpc if i was to join up would you vouch for my 14.77,


Haha yeah I can. The Prelude you beat wasn't mine :P It just used to be.... it dropped 20kw somewhere along the line. My PB was better than yours still (just) in full street trim, with the exhaust still attached, on the shittest tires you can get so :P


I wasn't talking about your old one, that was not beating me on the day due to the extractors being in two pieces where they should have been one. There was another guy there who i lined up next to and his mates were talking to him, said something about eating 20v next race so i politely asked what sort of times he had run. Response i got was faster than you'l ever do, 15.2 so i calmly told him to get ready to have his ass handed to him on a plate - which i duely did for him. He made sure he lined up next to me again next practice run with some excuse of missing a shift or something and his mates egging him on and i thrashed him again, off the lights, et trap with a 14.8 @151 compared to his 15.1 at 147 although he did come and have a talk after that. Think he was pretty happy that he bettered his pb - and he wanted to check to make sure i didn't have nos or something else trick in my car :)

Side note there are some pretty cocky toyota owners, actually when you think about it there are cocky owners of every kind of car out there really. Just the way of the world :roll:
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Postby Lith » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:29 pm

Loudtoy wrote:I wasn't talking about your old one, that was not beating me on the day due to the extractors being in two pieces where they should have been one. There was another guy there who i lined up next to and his mates were talking to him, said something about eating 20v next race so i politely asked what sort of times he had run. Response i got was faster than you'l ever do, 15.2 so i calmly told him to get ready to have his buttocks handed to him on a plate - which i duely did for him. He made sure he lined up next to me again next practice run with some excuse of missing a shift or something and his mates egging him on and i thrashed him again, off the lights, et trap with a 14.8 @151 compared to his 15.1 at 147 although he did come and have a talk after that. Think he was pretty happy that he bettered his pb - and he wanted to check to make sure i didn't have nos or something else trick in my car :)


Oh right I thought I might have just been a loud mouth and earnt some just deserts hahah :P Nice win, nice that you did quite a lot that meet!! I miss seeing that thing wipe cocky smiles.
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Postby RS13 » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:23 pm

RH9 wrote:hahaha i destroyed a 2003 Type R Civic on the motorway this morning............it felt good to bully those shlt boxes :lol:

Cold air = happy turbo :P


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Postby matt dunn » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:56 am

2jayzgte wrote:Back to that 2JZ powered Levin are they still running the same engine setup as last year or have they gone for more power.I know with that last years setup it has proven very reliable and very fast as I remember seeing it at Puke at that enduro where it was beaten by a Porsche but apparently it should have won but it had to do a splash and dash so it lost to the Porsche by about 40 odd seconds or something..


Still the same setup as per the last few years.
It's actually just a 100% stock rebuilt 2JZGTE in there,
thats why it's so reliable. Cant beat factory parts.

It was either finish 1/2 sec behind the porsche and maybe run out of fuel,
or splash and dash and still get second so was no point in staying out.

4000GT wrote:The V8 was incredibly fast but the GT3 brakes were a bit better :)

If the GT3 didnt stop so early do you think you were on pace with it?


Not too sure. We ran with it for a couple of laps, but told our driver to just let him go as he was over 10 laps down on us.
We were not running full pace and I dont think the Supercar was either till the last few laps.
Guess we'll see in 2 weeks at Timaru.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:37 am

Still running pretty much the stock motor you say that Levin must weigh like 1000-1100 odd kgs to run with Porsche's and V8 Supercars.You are right you can't beat the factory when it comes to reliability.They just seem to have built these motors so strong though you have replaced it at least once right at Manfield last year or the year before is that correct???

Do they plan to upgrade it go for more or are they just going to leave it as is and keep the reliability.I mean HP wise what whould it be in that 400-450 range I'm guessing but with the motor being stock and for reliability sakes I'm guessing it would not be more than this????
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Postby method » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:30 pm

Even production Vs production i dont think toyota would win in the NA stakes.

the 1600cc civic type R's vs 20valves. 20 valves are pretty average from factory.. where as the type R's are fairly race orientated for a mass produced car

the 1800cc type R tegs would clean up any standard 1800cc toyota.

The s2000's would be my pick against a beams MR2 or Alteza. They have 50/50 weight distribution like the MR2 but in turn are lighter and make more power.
After all Mr'2s arnt even raced in the super GT. Supras are put up against the s2000's.

The s2000's can even claim the most KW per displacement out of any production engine. Even such engines as what go in super cars that are pretty much hand made.

As for turbo'd cars. Toyotas supra would definatly eat up a turbo honda legend/saber what ever their turbo cruiser is.

But then as far as turbo cars go id rather have a mitsubishi or nissan . What toyota has left a racing legacy like the evo or skyline GTR?

Toyotas are simple the best bang for buck, they are cheap, go hard and dont break. And when they do break they are cheap to repair.

Toyotas claim to fame is cost and reliability, not so much racing. Enter the all mighty Corolla. And the corolla i do love :D 3 out of 6 cars ive owned have been corollas, and by far have given me the least amount of problems!

The only class of car id pick a toyota for is the 1300cc. Go the starlets. Unbeatable :D
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:05 pm

method wrote:the 1800cc type R tegs would clean up any standard 1800cc toyota.

The s2000's would be my pick against a beams MR2 or Alteza. They have 50/50 weight distribution like the MR2 but in turn are lighter and make more power.
After all Mr'2s arnt even raced in the super GT. Supras are put up against the s2000's.


I dont know, the later Celica's with the 2ZZGE's go pretty bloody well, and handle quite good.
S2000's are a little hairy on the track from what I've seen. I think a well sorted Altezza would give one a decent go, but wouldnt be able keep up.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:24 pm

4k vs what ever honda u care to name.




endurance race




to the death!!!


4k pwns u all!!!!!! :twisted:
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Postby fangsport » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:33 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:4k vs what ever honda u care to name.




endurance race




to the death!!!


4k pwns u all!!!!!! :twisted:
even though the Honda died first, being an endurance race, it would have clocked up far more laps/km's, when the 4K dies.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:34 pm

yeah but in 1387 years the 4k will still be going!
along with the cockroaches!
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:37 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:yeah but in 1387 years the 4k will still be going!
along with the cockroaches!


And only on its 4th tank of gas, and 2nd oil change.
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