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by **d1 mule** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:18 am

^ think your wrong there mate it takes 15 mins at 400kph to drain the tank.

find me a fuel pump bar top fuel that can pump 60L plus in 12 seconds and ill believe you, let alond an engine that can burn that much fuel....

by **iOnic** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:10 am

Urban-Cruiser wrote:At top speed the Veyron would run out of gas in 12secs and tyres in 15secs.
It takes 50sec to get to 400k.

Based on those specs the Veyron would need 4 new tyres and a full tank of gas every minute at motorway speeds....it would also never get to 400km/h because it would have to stop for tyres and fuel before it got half way there.....think before you post :lol:

And does 400m drag in 10.2secs. That doesnt seem great. lol.

Please tell me that was sarcasm? 10.2 for an automatic production car that weighs more than the average SUV is bloody fantastic

by **nzae86** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:18 pm

Well this one doesn't seem to be that fast any more ,

a quick re shell into an ae86, now that would be a car to own!

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:15 pm

^ still prob faster than 2 of my cars :lol:

by **Lith** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:55 pm

iOnic wrote:Please tell me that was sarcasm? 10.2 for an automatic production car that weighs more than the average SUV is bloody fantastic

Automatic? Err.... don't mistake the Veyron's non-driver operated clutch for a slush box

by **Mr Revhead** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:07 pm

dual clutch even!
hell, i think the only thing a veyron has one of is the steering wheel :lol:

by **2jayzgte** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Lith wrote:
iOnic wrote:Please tell me that was sarcasm? 10.2 for an automatic production car that weighs more than the average SUV is bloody fantastic

Automatic? Err.... don't mistake the Veyron's non-driver operated clutch for a slush box

Okay Flash automatic then.... :lol:

by **Adamal** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:18 pm

More like a flash manual

by **iOnic** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:17 am

If something other than the driver's left foot disengages the engine from the transmission - it's an automatic. All the fancy devices and computers in between don't change that fact.

by **Adamal** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:03 am

So what about when someone just changes gear by slamming their box up a gear without using the clutch. Does their box suddenly become an automatic?

by **iOnic** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:16 am

No it suddenly becomes a paperweight :lol:

The system still has a driver controlled method of disengaging the engine from the transmission.......whether it's used or not is a whole other story.

by **Lith** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:05 am

iOnic wrote:No it suddenly becomes a paperweight The system still has a driver controlled method of disengaging the engine from the transmission.......whether it's used or not is a whole other story.

Yeah I know its an automatic, but you said it was quick for an automatic - so is the Rayglass Celica!

by **iOnic** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:24 pm

I said it was quick for an automatic production car. The rayglass celica is purpose built to accelerate as quickly as possible over a 400m stretch. It's lightyears away from a gearbox that's designed to drive at 50km while having the legs to go to 400km/h

by **Adamal** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:33 pm

So what about things like rally cars, which have a clutch, but don't need to be used on shifts? You know, with the one, big paddle that you pull to change up, and push to change down?

by **Lith** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:42 pm

iOnic wrote:I said it was quick for an automatic production car.

Oh ok. Do motorbikes count? They are production run

by **iOnic** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:03 pm

Adamal wrote:So what about things like rally cars, which have a clutch, but don't need to be used on shifts? You know, with the one, big paddle that you pull to change up, and push to change down?

The clutch on normal manual cars doesn't "need" to be used for shifting gears either...but it's there. If the rally car stops without the driver disengaging the clutch (or putting it in neutral).....it will stall. That's what cars with manual transmissions do. Whether you use the clutch or not is besides the point.

Lith wrote:
Oh ok. Do motorbikes count? They are production run

Bikes aren't cars.

by **~SlideWays~** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 pm

iOnic wrote:
Lith wrote:Oh ok. Do motorbikes count? They are production run

Bikes aren't cars.

WIN!

by **fivebob** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:57 pm

iOnic wrote:If something other than the driver's left foot disengages the engine from the transmission - it's an automatic. All the fancy devices and computers in between don't change that fact.

Interesting definition, but IMHO wrong. Manual simply refers to whether or not the driver determines when to change gears (hence manual mode on an otherwise automatic gearbox. It's got nothing to do with the use of clutches and who/what disengages them, it's got to do with who/what initiates the change of gear.

by **Adamal** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:24 pm

OOoo! I just spotted something I can use!

If the driver uses his RIGHT foot to disengage the clutch, does that make it an automatic?

by **fivebob** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:31 pm

iOnic wrote: If the rally car stops without the driver disengaging the clutch (or putting it in neutral).....it will stall. That's what cars with manual transmissions do.

What about centrifugal clutches?

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