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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri May 31, 2013 8:20 pm

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iOnic wrote:For almost 2 months, you're the only person that has posted in this thread :p you must REALLY love the LF-A haha.


Yes I do its my dream car if I had the $$$$$ I would'nt hesitate Ring Edition for me.

Love the idea of owning a factory produced Road/Track-day special.


i dont post, but i always look at what you are posting.

years ago when people ask me what my dream car is, i always said i'd rather have 5 cars worth 50k each than one worth 250k. but now i say, LFA.

speaking of - does anyone know where i can find a torrent or something of that national geographic / supercars thing someone posted earlier in the thread?

keen to watch in high def / big screen.


It's unobtainable but for me the biggest thing I love being a Supra owner is the engineering behind it.I think Toyota deserve alot of credit for doing a car like this its totally not in there DNA as a car maker and really to make a car like this which is as good as anything out there really speaks volumes to me.
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Postby Makaveli » Fri May 31, 2013 9:09 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39LtaxVKBo
Crappy quality. But 3 LFAs on the street LOL
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Postby AE82 FXGT » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:31 am

Makaveli wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39LtaxVKBo
Crappy quality. But 3 LFAs on the street LOL


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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:39 am

LOL spot the odd one out
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Postby 2jayzgte » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:36 am

Makaveli wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39LtaxVKBo
Crappy quality. But 3 LFAs on the street LOL


The chrome coloured LFA is actually yellow it just has one of those wraps over its original colour to me the Mclaren and Aston sound pretty average compared to those LFA's when they take off.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:44 pm

Qualifying lap for the Ring 24 hour this year.

I think it could have been a bit quicker aswell as he seemed to get held up early in the lap.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/lfa-mod ... g-lap.html
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Postby 2jayzgte » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:55 am

2012 Nurburgring highlights with the LFA and GT 86.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GHsD4P_50g
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Postby dnalunchie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:23 pm

http://www.boldride.com/ride/2015/toyot ... #gallery/2



Only issue I can see with a new supra is that it would most likely not compare to the mk4.

At the time of the mk4 the supra was the ultimate pinnacle of what toyota could put into a car. An amazing engine, good suspension and a great gearbox and probably the best aero they could come up with at the time. Who knows what it cost to develop, a lot I would say.

Fast forward to today and the LFA is the pinnacle of toyota/lexus cars and we all know how much that cost to develop and what it costs to buy.

What I am getting at is that in 1994 the supra was toyotas supercar and they could afford to go all out on it because they had nothing higher. Now that is not the case, so I wonder if any new supra would suffer because of the need for the LFA to be the top dog.

Any new supra would have to be below the LFA in performance terms and I think that could make it difficult for the image of the supra in terms of what it once was in the 1990's and what it would have to be now.
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Postby Pelo » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:19 pm

dnalunchie wrote:http://www.boldride.com/ride/2015/toyota-supra-concept#gallery/2



Only issue I can see with a new supra is that it would most likely not compare to the mk4.

At the time of the mk4 the supra was the ultimate pinnacle of what toyota could put into a car. An amazing engine, good suspension and a great gearbox and probably the best aero they could come up with at the time. Who knows what it cost to develop, a lot I would say.

Fast forward to today and the LFA is the pinnacle of toyota/lexus cars and we all know how much that cost to develop and what it costs to buy.

What I am getting at is that in 1994 the supra was toyotas supercar and they could afford to go all out on it because they had nothing higher. Now that is not the case, so I wonder if any new supra would suffer because of the need for the LFA to be the top dog.

Any new supra would have to be below the LFA in performance terms and I think that could make it difficult for the image of the supra in terms of what it once was in the 1990's and what it would have to be now.


The LFA is a proper super (hyper?) car though. There will never be common or cheap.
I reckon the next Supra should aim to compete with the Porsche 911 and similar cars, just like in the '90s.
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Postby Lloyd » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:32 pm

Just like it did, just like it will. JZA80 turbo was under 40k US when new.
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Postby dnalunchie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:19 pm

Yeah that would be cool. maybe in the region of 380-420hp from a turbo 6 or 8. Maybe less techy than the LFA would be ideal too.

I just wonder how much it would cost to develop such a car and whether they could make it live up to the supra name
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Postby Lloyd » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:33 pm

LFA was an engineering exercise rather than making a car to sell.

The "under 40k" but was in reference to the JZA80 not being anywhere near the same league as the LFA ;)
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Postby 2jayzgte » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:51 pm

Would love to see another turboed Supra but from the looks of things its going to be an NA who know's what 3.5-4.0 litre V8 maybe.

My dream is an inline 6 with a small pair of variable vein turbo's an upgraded ABS and braking system a little lighter in that 1300-1400kg range.

Hp wise anything in the 420-480 odd range would do it.
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Postby dnalunchie » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:33 pm

2jayzgte wrote:Would love to see another turboed Supra but from the looks of things its going to be an NA who know's what 3.5-4.0 litre V8 maybe.

My dream is an inline 6 with a small pair of variable vein turbo's an upgraded ABS and braking system a little lighter in that 1300-1400kg range.

Hp wise anything in the 420-480 odd range would do it.


Yeah that seems likly for the engine, toyota always has a few decent atmo v8's kicking around the lexus brand so would probably be easier to stuff one of them in than build a new turbo engine.

My point is that regardless of what the supra cost when it came out it was the highest spec toyota you could buy, I think because of that it will be hard for toyota to position the car so as to make it equally special to the mk4 but not too close to the LFA

Maybe they could make something around the price of the RS4's, m3's and C55 Amg's. Maybe around that 120-150k market with similar power. Could be a cool idea If they did that it would put it right in the firing line of the GTR though and that could present issues of its own.

I mean how does toyota make a car that isn't embarressed by the GTR but doesnt cost as much to develop as the LFA, I don't think it could be done easily as the GTR is just such a capable machine
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:57 pm

Inline 6 engines are almost dead ducks. You won't see one in a Toyota ever again
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Postby 2jayzgte » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:10 pm

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2jayzgte wrote:Would love to see another turboed Supra but from the looks of things its going to be an NA who know's what 3.5-4.0 litre V8 maybe.

My dream is an inline 6 with a small pair of variable vein turbo's an upgraded ABS and braking system a little lighter in that 1300-1400kg range.

Hp wise anything in the 420-480 odd range would do it.


Yeah that seems likly for the engine, toyota always has a few decent atmo v8's kicking around the lexus brand so would probably be easier to stuff one of them in than build a new turbo engine.

My point is that regardless of what the supra cost when it came out it was the highest spec toyota you could buy, I think because of that it will be hard for toyota to position the car so as to make it equally special to the mk4 but not too close to the LFA

Maybe they could make something around the price of the RS4's, m3's and C55 Amg's. Maybe around that 120-150k market with similar power. Could be a cool idea If they did that it would put it right in the firing line of the GTR though and that could present issues of its own.

I mean how does toyota make a car that isn't embarressed by the GTR but doesnt cost as much to develop as the LFA, I don't think it could be done easily as the GTR is just such a capable machine


Agreed it is difficult proposition but regardless they need to do it.

Your right if you want a car that does it all for you the GTR is really tough to beat.Mind you I've been out on the track with these 35s and if I'm honest they did nothing for me and I didn't have any issues footing it with them in my car.
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Postby duddley » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:26 pm

Would a new supra be a hybrid? that Yaris hybrid concept car looks nutty.
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Postby Lloyd » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Wasn't that what the FT was supposed to be?
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:34 pm

wouldnt it make more sense for a RWD coupe called supra to compete with 350z etc?

tickled 2GR-FSE or even an option for 2UR?

would help keep development costs down.
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Postby iOnic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:52 pm

350Z is a bit shit though :lol: For it to be called a Supra, it would have to be aimed squarely at the GTR - whether Toyota like it or not, that will be the yardstick that a reincarnation of their 90's hero car will be measured against. I can't see Toyota building a worthy competitor to the GTR for the same money as the GTR. I actually don't think we'll see anything mainstream coming out of Japan that will bother the GTR anytime soon.
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