How many WRC ST205's in the country?

[XS1V]

Hey guys

Have searched and cant see this having been discussed before, or im just not putting the right words in

How many are in NZ? I know of the five NZ New versions, now four apparently with the dead shell at pick a part :S

Brad

[RunningRich]

Probably impossible to tell unless someone can search the LTSA database to identify ST205 Celicas (but not ST205 Exiv's).

You can't tell a WRC from the chassis number unfortunately.

[XS1V]

You can't tell a WRC from the chassis number unfortunately.

Thats only half true...... The WRC's were all made in the first 5000 units but not sequentially so if the chassis number is between ST205-00000001 and ST205-00005000 there is a 50% chance it is a WRC

Brad

[Adamal]

Whats does the WRC have that the others don't?

[mr30%jr]

sprayers? a half finished antilag?

[sergei]

Whats does the WRC have that the others don't?

Well the only major functional difference is the steel turbo (which all NZ New non WRC also have).
Other than that whole load of disabled stuff, some of it can be re-enabled (like spray bar).

[XS1V]

Whats does the WRC have that the others don't?

Water Injection, Antilag, Intercooler Sprayers, High mount rear wing and bonnet lip spoiler. And of course the rarity factor

They were just cars taken from the original production run at random and fitted with the homolgation parts so they could be run by TTE. For some reason were never treated like the ST185 Homologation model and given a name and special treatment. Only in Aussie and NZ were they labeled Group A Rallye. I think they should have been the Juha Kankkunen model

Brad

[sergei]

Whats does the WRC have that the others don't?

Water Injection, Antilag, Intercooler Sprayers, High mount rear wing and bonnet lip spoiler. And of course the rarity factor

They were just cars taken from the original production run at random and fitted with the homolgation parts so they could be run by TTE. For some reason were never treated like the ST185 Homologation model and given a name and special treatment. Only in Aussie and NZ were they labeled Group A Rallye. I think they should have been the Juha Kankkunen model

Brad

Exclude that high mount rear wing as WRC only, as it was released as option on facelift, so it also appeared on non-WRC (like mine for example).

[XS1V]

All parts are toyota parts and are all in the EPC so can be ordered and fitted to your car which of course makes genuine examples a little harder to identify but if it has all the bits and is in the first 5000, chances are it is genuine

Brad

[Malcolm]

Whats does the WRC have that the others don't?

Water Injection, Antilag, Intercooler Sprayers, High mount rear wing and bonnet lip spoiler. And of course the rarity factor

They were just cars taken from the original production run at random and fitted with the homolgation parts so they could be run by TTE. For some reason were never treated like the ST185 Homologation model and given a name and special treatment. Only in Aussie and NZ were they labeled Group A Rallye. I think they should have been the Juha Kankkunen model

Brad

I've never heard anything about them having water injection, got any information about the system?

I'd say the reason they aren't seen as being as special is that they are functionally virtually identical to a standard st205 anyway - the difference between an st185 and an RC are pretty significant in comparison.

[XS1V]

I have the water injection system from one at home. Here is a link to an EPC which shows the pump and valves for it which are mounted in the washer reservoir http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1994_T ... 503.2.html

Also see here for information on the system: http://www.gtfours.co.uk/what/wrc/wi/wi.htm

Brad

[DeeCee]

as much as the WRC was built up to for homologation purposes, functionally, the WRC is the same as the standard except it is heavier There are also some random metal panels under the carpet as extra as well.

As you know, WI and AL don't work because a standard computer is used, so going aftermarket parts for WI and AL using AM computer would be the route to get those items functional.

For pure "uniqueness" value, then the WRC would be the one to have, if even just for some extra weight lol.

At the end of the day Brad, what do you want? The unique car that you and a few others have or the car that you modify to what you want it to be?

[XS1V]

Thats it, the uniqueness is what I am after. As you know I have the TTE spec WRC 185 to be what I want that to be. The 205 will be my daily as standard as it can be, apart maybe from some 17" oz rims because those standard rims are, well, dead ugly Will probably put a basic computer in for some basic tuneing and to run water injection and sprayers, will try to stay away from the easy task of running the antilag as well but we will see

Brad

[DeeCee]

as soon as you modify it, you begin the cycle again, which means you should just buy a standard st205. If you're going to buy a WRC version keep it stock except for some very minor fiddling lol

WI and sprayers aren't hard to run from AM comp. I don't believe anyone has shown and fully explained how the homogolation AL works and has got it working, though there are claims of it working in UK.

[Akane]

The ST205 WRC That I have, the Antilag pipes are actually blocked on the inside. Yes I gave it a "blow job" and it seems to be blocked.

The "blow off valve" is different too I believe, if I remember correctly (4 years ago since I sold it), it's a double piston (2 x half moon shaped pistons), and it blows off to 2 different ports, one as normal, the other one out the bottom to the antilag pipes, which are blocked

[®usty]

hmm, could get a 1/2 cut if your after the WRC stuff? but expensive now though...

I've read about a ST204 with the WRC 3sgte make 250KW @ wheels with supporting mods (but stock turbo and internals, enabling the WRC stuff) will look into it more if you want??

[Adamal]

Brad, just get an Evo. I know how much you're DIEING to just get one

[The Skum]

There was probably a very small quantity of WRC model cars that ever came to New Zealand Ex-Japan.

The main reason for this would be due to frontal impact standards (post 1996) and when that law was brought in to place.

The ST205 was a very expensive car for a long time, and pre frontal impact days the majority of imports such as mitsi's, subaru's, gti-r and (mazda) gtr's were a far more intelligent pick (Bang for your buck wise). Not to mention other assorted cars that could be brought in.

ST205 were a very rare car for selection to import back then.

Following frontal impact regulations the post '96 cars were all that could be imported, and even then they were still expensive and never came in in any real volume...


Finding a good one with low k's must be near impossible, thats why i bought my silver one with 52kms on it when i had the chance. Even though its NZ New and not a WRC model.

It does have the bonnet spoiler though....

^This post is brought to you by the best types of evidence....hearsay & conjecture.^

[®usty]

thats the good thing about the gt4 though, they aren't everywhere like the evos and subbies, they stand out more since they are different.

theres a couple of GT4's, been stored away in the shed for 10 years on trademe for sale, they look real good

[mr30%jr]

thus why im tring to rereg my st165