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4WDs: Petrol vs Diesel

Postby Boosted_162 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:58 pm

Now ive been wondering this for a while. Im (still) looking to upgrade my terrano to a newer one, and petrol ones seem to be so much cheaper. So what have people found the difference to be running a petrol 4WD instead of diesel one? Obviously there is the price difference + RUC, but whats the fuel economy REALLY like between the 2 fuels?

Ill be going for either a TD27T/QD32T diesel or a VG33DE petrol, probably auto.
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Postby Elmo » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:39 am

Daniel, aka redmist bought a petrol one based on the fact they are cheaper to BUY. After running it down to Dunedin and back towing a trailor he feels like he made up for the price difference in fuel on that one trip. I dont know much about them, but I do know that diesel is much more efficient on heavy vechicles.
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Postby iOnic » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:44 am

They chew through the petrol Craig. Diesel is the way to go for heavy vehicles. May aswell get a V8 disco if you're looking for a fuel bill :lol:
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:50 am

That answers it then :lol:, will try find a cheapish diesel one.
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Postby Leon » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:32 am

having watched a friend drop a fairly large amount of money into an Isuzu diesel something (Bighorn?) chasing overheating, I'd suggest unless you're knowledgable about the diesels, get somebody to do a really good check over of the mechanical bits before you drop the coin.

I'm relatively comfortable with looking at petrol cars, but I'd be so naive looking at a diesel that I could be sold a total pup and never know it 8)
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:42 am

Leon wrote:having watched a friend drop a fairly large amount of money into an Isuzu diesel something (Bighorn?) chasing overheating, I'd suggest unless you're knowledgable about the diesels, get somebody to do a really good check over of the mechanical bits before you drop the coin.

I'm relatively comfortable with looking at petrol cars, but I'd be so naive looking at a diesel that I could be sold a total pup and never know it 8)


Definately agree with you on this one. I have learnt a bit with my current terrano (early TD27T), but compared to petrols i get lost quite easily! So will definately be dragging someone with me that knows diesels :lol:
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Postby Elmo » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:47 am

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Leon wrote:having watched a friend drop a fairly large amount of money into an Isuzu diesel something (Bighorn?) chasing overheating, I'd suggest unless you're knowledgable about the diesels, get somebody to do a really good check over of the mechanical bits before you drop the coin.

I'm relatively comfortable with looking at petrol cars, but I'd be so naive looking at a diesel that I could be sold a total pup and never know it 8)


Definately agree with you on this one. I have learnt a bit with my current terrano (early TD27T), but compared to petrols i get lost quite easily! So will definately be dragging someone with me that knows diesels :lol:


Why do people get over whelmed by diesels? They are much simpler than petrols. They require 2 things to run, are and fuel. Older diesels dont even need electronics. The cooling system is the same as a petrol, radiator, coolant galeries, a pump, and a temp controller (thermostat).

Diesels up to about 15 years ago didnt even have anything remotely EGR (etc) on it, yet petrols have had it for much longer.

Diesels are simple.
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:57 am

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Leon wrote:having watched a friend drop a fairly large amount of money into an Isuzu diesel something (Bighorn?) chasing overheating, I'd suggest unless you're knowledgable about the diesels, get somebody to do a really good check over of the mechanical bits before you drop the coin.

I'm relatively comfortable with looking at petrol cars, but I'd be so naive looking at a diesel that I could be sold a total pup and never know it 8)


Definately agree with you on this one. I have learnt a bit with my current terrano (early TD27T), but compared to petrols i get lost quite easily! So will definately be dragging someone with me that knows diesels :lol:


Why do people get over whelmed by diesels? They are much simpler than petrols. They require 2 things to run, are and fuel. Older diesels dont even need electronics. The cooling system is the same as a petrol, radiator, coolant galeries, a pump, and a temp controller (thermostat).

Diesels up to about 15 years ago didnt even have anything remotely EGR (etc) on it, yet petrols have had it for much longer.

Diesels are simple.


For me i find its just im so used to petrol cars. I can understand most bits, but stuff like diesel pumps are completely new to me (current truck is my first diesel, had 9 months or so). Im sure they are very simple, but im just cautious if i really dont know about them :lol:
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Postby Leon » Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:26 pm

it isn't being overwhelmed, it's just that I know that I don't know what to look for :D
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:26 pm

Dont get new Navara or Hilux unless your made of money, injectors, diffs, gearbox's in the hilux, injectors gearbox's and radiators in the Navaras crap out , and thats around the 5yo mark, not saying that all do it, or all of them, but be warned
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:29 pm

CelicaGT8 wrote:Dont get new Navara or Hilux unless your made of money, injectors, diffs, gearbox's in the hilux, injectors gearbox's and radiators in the Navaras crap out , and thats around the 5yo mark, not saying that all do it, or all of them, but be warned


Nah wont be spending that much, will be looking at mid 90's (so R50 Terrano and maybe KZN185 Surf, so no common rails). Pretty much set on a R50 with QD32T if i can find one for the right money.
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Postby CelicaGT8 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:36 pm

R50 with QD32T FTW

They go really well, no major probs with them. Injector pumps have been leaking quite a bit lately with the change of fuel, just make sure its dry when you look at the ute
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Postby Nuty|Mike » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:09 pm

dont talk to me about diesel pumps :x

got a pajero lwb here for sale if you want one that doesnt leak diesel any more :!:
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:23 pm

Nuty|Mike wrote:dont talk to me about diesel pumps :x

got a pajero lwb here for sale if you want one that doesnt leak diesel any more :!:


Mine doesnt leak! Injectors are worn tho :(

Got details on that Pajero? Not really what i was looking for but if the price is right...:lol:
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Postby Dell'Orto » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:43 pm

I can get you a V44 Pajero for ~$1500 if you're happy to deal with de-reg
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:20 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:I can get you a V44 Pajero for ~$1500 if you're happy to deal with de-reg


Nah dont need a project :lol: it's gunna replace my terrano as a daily so looking for something more modern that doesnt need work.
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Postby Bling » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:34 pm

I preferred parents petrol Terrano over there diesel one, it certainly got up and boogied! You could even watch the fuel gauge boogie :lol: The R50's are pretty sweet though, am currently trying to borrow one as a daily for the awesome quake damaged roads down here :?
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:02 am

I had a MWB 70 series Landcruiser with a petrol 3.8L holden V6 auto.

I used $120 in petrol to drive to a camping location and did some offroading and back home again.

Now I have another MWB 70 series Landcruiser but is Diesel and Manual, did the same trip with more km offroad and used about $60 diesel all up!

Of course RUC comes into it but it'd still be about a 30:70 comparison.

Its now a turbo diesel and uses even less fuel because I don't need to have my foot flat all the time :lol:
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Postby solitaire » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:03 pm

only thing with diesel is registration is a killer... my wifes kzn185 is due for a rego and its rediculous...
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:49 pm

solitaire wrote:only thing with diesel is registration is a killer... my wifes kzn185 is due for a rego and its rediculous...


$402 for 12 months I think it was? Insane. :?
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