Cromwell Track

[matt dunn]

Sort of.

Yes, in a city of over 100,000 1% of complainers is over a thousand people (who you simply can't ignore if you're actually effecting their lives) as opposed to 10 people in a town of a few thousand - that only stands to reason.

The reality of a big town is that a lot more of the land is more densely populated and hence far more difficult to find somewhere that no one minds it being.

In Timaru,

it was just a handful of people with a lot of lawyers and money that limited the use of levels,
Now it only allowed to be used 5 Sunday's a year,
a only a few saturdays a month,
and we have to schedule events almost 12 months in advance to give them notice.

[rolla_fxgt]

Sort of.

Yes, in a city of over 100,000 1% of complainers is over a thousand people (who you simply can't ignore if you're actually effecting their lives) as opposed to 10 people in a town of a few thousand - that only stands to reason.

The reality of a big town is that a lot more of the land is more densely populated and hence far more difficult to find somewhere that no one minds it being.

In Timaru,

it was just a handful of people with a lot of lawyers and money that limited the use of levels,
Now it only allowed to be used 5 Sunday's a year,
a only a few saturdays a month,
and we have to schedule events almost 12 months in advance to give them notice.

Exactly why the RMA needs fixed, you can't have a few people controlling what happens. Oh & existing use rights should be entrenched! I mean Levels has been there what 50 years now? & surely the people moving there would of known it was there, so they should be prepared to live with it when they made the decision to move there in the 1st place.

But again slightly different kettle of fish to new developments.

[Mr Revhead]

yeah, levels has been there a while.
and the airport 2k down the road even longer....

then some ignorant c**ts buy houses nearby and try and shut the track down.

whats even more unbelievable is they nearly succeded

[JustinSpiderholden]

The RMA is $&#$%

Give the rich the power and leave's those who can't afford good legal advise $&#$%

A prime example is western springs in auckland, the track has been there longer than 80% of the house's yet is so limted in operation due to nosie complants, geeze if you buy a house near a race track prepare to deal with the noise. Same as is you buy a house near a motorway or airport you have to deal with the noise.

Wouldnt it be $&#$% funny if all the airports in nz were only allowed to operate for a few hours a day due to noise restirctions

[rolla_fxgt]

The RMA is $&#$%

Give the rich the power and leave's those who can't afford good legal advise $&#$%

A prime example is western springs in auckland, the track has been there longer than 80% of the house's yet is so limted in operation due to nosie complants, geeze if you buy a house near a race track prepare to deal with the noise. Same as is you buy a house near a motorway or airport you have to deal with the noise.

Wouldnt it be $&#$% funny if all the airports in nz were only allowed to operate for a few hours a day due to noise restirctions

Don't laugh it could happen! Especially to Auckland airport.

Even worse is the people who buy a house & don't get a copy of the LIM report for that property & then when Transit says they're gona build a big motorway to save lives kick up a fuss, when if they'd been thorough when buying a house in the 1st place they'd see there was a covenant for a motorway corridor next door for the last 30 odd years. Baiscally in my opinion those ppl are to dumb to have rights.

But yay race track, saw in the ODT that its supposed to be operational by end of 2009 & they're talking to MSNZ re track requirements & having Greg Murphy have input on the track layout. & alot of the race eries including teir 1 classes are apparently keen to run their when its all setup. They reckon people will come even if they wouldnt normally go to motor racing cause of the scenery & area. Like the NZ open in Qtown has done for golf

[barryogen]

having Greg Murphy have input on the track layout.

excellent... trackside boxing rings... :lol:

[AJz]

having Greg Murphy have input on the track layout.

excellent... trackside boxing rings...

lol, was thinking a similar thing.

To be honest id say id much prefer driving to cromwell than i would driving to timaz. More interesting drive. Seems to go quicker aswell.

[Ant]

plus you get to drive through the george on the way

meanest piece of road.

[Baxter]

In Timaru,

it was just a handful of people with a lot of lawyers and money that limited the use of levels...

Yeah sure, and that sucks.

But you can't compare the effects on residents of the establishment of a new track with the effects of an existing track.

I agree that people shouldn't be able to complain about the noise of a race track after buying a property next to a pre-existing track.

However, that is quite a different case to setting a new track up. People should have some way of objecting to such big projects being built in their backyards, and the RMA is it.
Sure it's not perfect and has made a few very odd decisions - but at the end of the day all people should have the right to have their day in court and present their case and a fair decision be made (ie the RMA is good in theory, but indeed needs a damn good tweak or 3, and indeed as rolla_fxgt said existing use rights should be able to be somewhat entrenched).