Dunedin drivers dangerous?

[barryogen]

according to todays paper we have more accidents for the distance driven than anywhere else in the country...

I guess I can't really argue that we(generally) suck at driving, Auckland was much more polite through fear of being beaten/shot at, wellington the wind is so strong that you dearent go too fast, chch there is a general understanding that three cars go through the intersection after the light goes red, whereas here we have nothing... just a heap of old people.

[Bling]

lol @ chch, its at least 3 through the red light

thats one thing I don't contribute to as parents have both been stung on red lights (theres many i'm sure I do contribute stats for tho!)

[rolla_fxgt]

Yeah i'd love to see the age breakdown for the crashes in Dunedin.

I'd bet it invovles alot more older people than the rest of the country plus the usual under 21's who do stupid shit.


Oh & i reckin half the ppl who run redlights here, at least in the main CBD part, are bus drivers

And the padestrians who get run over when walking out in front of people, well thats just natural selection.
There was a letter in Critic this year from overseas student (not asian) who had studied in Europe & the US & couldn't believe that padestrians don't have the right of way on roads in NZ

[barryogen]

Oh & i reckin half the ppl who run redlights here, at least in the main CBD part, are bus drivers :evil:

And the padestrians who get run over when walking out in front of people, well thats just natural selection.
There was a letter in Critic this year from overseas student (not asian) who had studied in Europe & the US & couldn't believe that padestrians don't have the right of way on roads in NZ 8O

I sent an email with four pictures of citybus buses going through red lights and I am yet to receive a reply with any sort of explaination as to why... this was during a walk from the octagon to high street.

I must say that I do not slow down for pedestrians crossing in front of me no matter what street, unless it is obvious that I'm going to hit them, in which case I slam the brakes and the horn at the last moment to scare the sh|t out of them.

[SkylineObsession]

I'd like to think i don't contribute to the worst drivers in Dunedin list.

I come to a complete stop at all Stop signs. Try to avoid going through orange lights. Stop, or go slowly through Give Ways. Always try to keep an eye on everything while driving. Never get road rage (unless someone does something totally stupid). Don't speed (sit just on or just under every speed limit most of the time). And yadda yadda.

But yeah, i think there are some pretty horrible drivers in this city. Park up at the St Clair Esplanade and watch (literally) NINE out of ten cars not stopping at the Stop sign... Went to Central Police station once to tell them about this, but obviously they aren't as into revenue generating as i thought/hoped.

[barryogen]

heh, I like to think that I don't contribute to it either, but I do.

I tend to speed, roll through stop signs, run most if not all orange lights, although not "late orange" ones as I call them.

I do however try to be a bit courteous towards other drivers, let them into "my lane" if they indicate, watch where everyone is going, and stay away from them.

Occasionally I like to scare people who are being idiots, ones that don't appear to know where their lane is and weave into the lanes beside them(drive up beside them and tap on their door with the handle of a screw driver normally does it).

Oh well, I havent had an accident that was my fault yet, so heres hoping that I don't for at least a while longer.

[rolla_fxgt]

Funny story about that stop sign at the esplanade, was stopped at it waiting for traffic from my righ to go past so i could go through & someone (idiot, weirdo, old person,???) stopped at the padestrian crossing to let me through, had no idea what they were doing & was a bit sceptical about going through as if they'd then taken off & hit me, i would of been in the wrong. But they sat there & waved me through! Very strange. Oh & there wasn't anyone waiting at the crossing or even anywhere near it either.

Oh & about the busses, tell the cops & make a formal complaint to their commercial traffic unit, cause if you just tell the bus company they just laugh & say they have to keep to schedule.
Some of those busses are so dodgy. There was one last year that always left an oil/fluid trail behind it as it went up Kenmure road. Thing is the council couldn't do anything about it till they had proof it was that bus, i'e a photo

[MasCam]

Have to agree on the state of driving in this city.

No one pulls into the correct lane on one ways etc, hardly anyone indicates properly at roudabouts, people don't know how to merge like a zip when 2 lanes go into 1 and people try to stop you getting into thier lane, as dave put it, know matter how much you indicate and can see that they know you have because they speed up

I was just about run off the road last weekend twice once on the way to the airport and once on the way back both at merging points when arrogant idiots (both middle aged) wouldn't let me merge, one woman looked over and gave an arrogant laugh as she cut us up and the other guy sped up at the end of a passing lane to pull halfway alongside us to stop us moving properly into the lane and would not back off, he then tooted us when he finally did. (we were in the right hand lane as we had passed him just after the start of the passing lane)

I need some moron seeking missle's on my car

[skathed]

id agree to an extent since moving here ive seen more accidents. (dunedin is smaller then wellington though) general driving habbits of drivers down here are far more relaxed. ive had more near misses down here this year then in the 3 in wellington. theres alot of reasons for this, but its more 4wd hilux's and navaras that look like they should be on a farm instead of on the road. could be wrong but they often cut me off.
there is alot of drive through traffic on sh1 aswell which dosnt help.

the merge like a zip rule isnt practiced often either.

[try_hard]

i have seen god knows how many crashes down KV RD and funny enough all seem to be pretty much beside Shell and that peace of road after the round about. some idiot cut me off the other day by passing me on the medium and of course i didnt know he was doing it and when i went to switch to the turning lane at the pak n save intersection almost drove right into the side of the clown. to top it off he sat at the green arrow so my hand sat on the horn. now i have my lil boy with me most the time and last thing i want it some sub-club fagget member causing an accident or putting my family in danger. these idiots strike the road rage into others because of there stupid driving

[rolla_fxgt]

id agree to an extent since moving here ive seen more accidents. (dunedin is smaller then wellington though) general driving habbits of drivers down here are far more relaxed. ive had more near misses down here this year then in the 3 in wellington. theres alot of reasons for this, but its more 4wd hilux's and navaras that look like they should be on a farm instead of on the road. could be wrong but they often cut me off.
there is alot of drive through traffic on sh1 aswell which dosnt help.

the merge like a zip rule isnt practiced often either.

Ha ha funny you should say about the merge like a zip thing, my mum was test driving a car for my sister last night & i was with her checking the car out & at the motorway on ramp at the end of KV road, she actually stopped & waited till someone let her in instead of gaining speed to merge properlly, made me wonder how she's managed to survive all these years on the road with out a crash.

Oh & the SH1 thing, reckon it should be moved to 4 lanes all the way to the port & then 2 lanes with occasional passing lanes heading to Aramoana & then along the waterfront across long beach etc & then meet up with the existing SH1 at blueskin bay & moved from going left at the oval to turning towards south D & make portsmouth drive SH1 & keep SH1 on the seaward side of the railway tracks.

But i know that would cost like a billion shitloads of money so it aint gona happen, but it needs to be moved from central dunners

[skathed]

dunners is a drive thru town just alot bigger then the little ones we see everytime he head out of town. the one way system does help filter out drive thru traffic to an extent and you only notice the mass amounts of cars that drive on it everyday when your stuck trying to get onto it (example being exiting countdown heading northbound) a better layout would be expensive and painful to deal with during the changes. but we wont see anything like that happening for some time. theres too many roads down here that are in need of tlc. comes down to money really and its all spent up north

[rolla_fxgt]

dunners is a drive thru town just alot bigger then the little ones we see everytime he head out of town. the one way system does help filter out drive thru traffic to an extent and you only notice the mass amounts of cars that drive on it everyday when your stuck trying to get onto it (example being exiting countdown heading northbound) a better layout would be expensive and painful to deal with during the changes. but we wont see anything like that happening for some time. theres too many roads down here that are in need of tlc. comes down to money really and its all spent up north

I know its all about the money & yup dunners is a large drive through town, funny thing is my Gf's home town of KatiKati (just north of Tauranga) is just starting on getting a bypass built & its a baby town, probally about the same size or smaller than Oamaru, its just that its in the Nth Island it get the money spent on it

[skathed]

yep. wellington had a good one. they spent a huge amount on traffic out of the city center northbound starting at the basin. handy it is, but still takes the same amount of time because of the 4 to 5 traffic lights u need to go thru on it. in a nutshell. people who make these plans and changes have someone else drive for them. too tired to continue ranting.

[cozmoid]

Have to agree on the state of driving in this city.

No one pulls into the correct lane on one ways etc, hardly anyone indicates properly at roudabouts, people don't know how to merge like a zip when 2 lanes go into 1 and people try to stop you getting into thier lane, as dave put it, know matter how much you indicate and can see that they know you have because they speed up

I was just about run off the road last weekend twice once on the way to the airport and once on the way back both at merging points when arrogant idiots (both middle aged) wouldn't let me merge, one woman looked over and gave an arrogant laugh as she cut us up and the other guy sped up at the end of a passing lane to pull halfway alongside us to stop us moving properly into the lane and would not back off, he then tooted us when he finally did. (we were in the right hand lane as we had passed him just after the start of the passing lane)

I need some moron seeking missle's on my car

Right on the money bro
Where r those missles. It sux bein a courteous driver in dunedin

[Simon K]

yep. wellington had a good one. they spent a huge amount on traffic out of the city center northbound starting at the basin. handy it is, but still takes the same amount of time because of the 4 to 5 traffic lights u need to go thru on it. in a nutshell. people who make these plans and changes have someone else drive for them. too tired to continue ranting.

If the original plans had been stuck to, there would have been a completely different design instead of the "bypass" we have now. In saying that, Karo drive sometimes does work well. It's also freed up some other parts of town which used to grind to a halt.

Now, new bits grind to a halt instead.

[cozmoid]

u gotta check out the 80kph bottle neck on our motorway by carisbrook! Its the main motorway south and is double lane each way everywhere apart for about a km along by the brook? It's nuts! The Dcc reckons it will take 10yrs to fix? Idiots never should have built it one way! It's only about 15yrs old!!!

[barryogen]

u gotta check out the 80kph bottle neck on our motorway by carisbrook! Its the main motorway south and is double lane each way everywhere apart for about a km along by the brook?

From doing some maths, you actually fit more cars(assuming correct following distances) at 80km/h than at 100km/h... the bottle neck is only there due to the lights at either end, if it were free flowing, there would be no issue.

Personally I think that the caversham end should be blocked off so that it is straight through.

And yeah, dual lanes would have sorted it, at least for a few more years, had they done that in the first place.

Decent public transport would be a good thing IMNSHO, if it went at the right time, I'd use it, a good system blows car expenses out of the window.

[Baxter]

Decent public transport would be a good thing IMNSHO, if it went at the right time, I'd use it...

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Dunedin has a pretty crappy bus service. Because of hills and being only an averaged sized city, to get decent regular buses public transport needs much more of a subsidy that it gets.