4AGTE - Turboing my FXGT

[GTCRSHR]

So im wanting to do this ...to my ae101 fxgt 1994 4age motor

But want some answeres
i see it has been done to levins a fair few

but its probly not as easy as bolting a turbo up or is it ?

so what do i need ?

and how hard is it to do ?

Is there any one that will do it for me (profesionally)

Whilest it is in the garage i would like to do a few other things like air filter / exaust / maybe strengetheing the motor internally ...


so can any one give me some good places to go or a few pointers and things i should be looking out for ?

im ASSUMING its gonna be the same as a levin (ae101) not twincharged just 4AGTE

and what would i be looking at to get it professionally done ...

has any one done this b4 to a fxgt ????

thanks for any insite u guys

[Distrb]

all principals are exactly the same, weither it be levin/trueno/fxgt

if it was me, i'd do it once, and do it properly... use a GZE block, gearbox, loom and ecu, i remember ~slideways~ telling me he got his GZE for $1900

add that price to the price of all the bits needed to convert the supercharger to turbo. i remember seeing PHAT_GTZ selling her complete kit for around $2000

then add labour on top of that.. and yeah... thats what it'll cost you to get it professionally done


in all reality, is it really worth turbocharging a silvertop? (gains vs cost)

[rollas22]

im in the middle of turboing my 20v.

you have to get forged pistons (ze or custom JE) ring, locks n pins
you have an option of getting forged Conrods or not (ZE)
strengthen your crankshaft.
thicker gas kit
port n polished the head
balance it all

then you gota get a custom manifold for the turbo (action dan makes them)
intercooler - pipping
Aftermarket ECU - link/link plus
then all the other bits like a bov, exhaust, boost gauge, turbo timer, CLutch.

its alot cheaper if you got the know how and the can do. or mates that do. cause labour dont come cheap.

so if your planing on spending at least $5k go hard!

[GTCRSHR]

so the best way is to get a ae101 4agze engine and gear box(thats stronger right ?)

or a smashed levin ae101 supercharged (4agze)

and rip it all appart and use that ?

or am i going in the wrong direction here

so say if a budget of $5000-$7000 it would be possible ?

and what sort of performanance gains is it going to have im not expecting a 10 second fxgt but something better than the standard 16 or there abouts second pass would be nice ...

or would i just be better of doing standard mods to gain a little more HP and freein the engine up a bit (simplified) and leaving it at that ....

[MrOizo]

maybe you should look into something like this

viewtopic.php?p=146875

REBIC extra injector controller

[rollas22]

also id sugest removing the air conditioning, as this will allow more airflow into the engine and better performance.

beware - when getting a GTZ g/box, you will need to replace the axles as well. costly too.
also findng a wrecked supercharged GTZ maybe hard.

Once mines all up and finished ill post up some pics and get it doing sum passes

[Lloyd]

Dont suppose you wanna buy my TD04 do ya Chris?

[matt dunn]

If you are not going to run stupid boost pressures and try and get massive HP out of it here is what I would reccommend.

Buy new genuine pistons and rings from toyota to suit a GZE.
Open up your engine and fit them in. No need to change anything else.
New head gasket etc and reassemble it.

Take your car to an exhaust specalist and get them to make a manifold.
I have seen real good manifolds that are a basturd to fit cause they were made without the car.
Plum it up through a front mount and you will have to get a new plenium/air box made to go onto the factory throttle body's.

Buy a link computer and get it wired into the factory loom. This will reduce having to wire in a GTZ ecu and will be a lot better for a small amount more than having to completely rewire.

Tune and drive.
Eventually will need a clutch upgrade.

Thats about it.

Why spend $1900 on a new engine and another $500 or so to fit it when putting pistons in yours will do and will give the same result.

All up should be within your budget this way.

Matt Dunn

[IFSN8U]

hey dude im in the process of turboing my fxgt. mines 92 ae101

it's hard work and ive had a few little things go wrong but all in all im getting there. heres what ive done an little probs ive had so far hope it helps

this is what ive done and soon be doing im half way through.

bought 4agze motor with loom.
4AGZE gearbox (lsd)
with this you need the driveshafts the standard fx ones dont fit on to gearbox as i found out
had turbo manifold made up.
you need another intake manifold super charged one wont work.
front ,mont i/c im using vr4 one
take out airconditioning to make room for i/c
also the radiator for the fx's have the hose connections different places so harder to connect to motor only minor hassle
bigger injectors
def get clutch done while motor is out.
get new water pump cambelt etc.
get oil feed line welded to oil sump off motor
quiet a few things like hoses and wiring is in different places on the motor compared to the 20valve so they make things more annoying and time consuming
umm oh yeah im getting link comp just the stabdard one thats all ya need
4agze fuel pump will do the trick. im up to the stage of putting motor in and wiring everythng back up.

if ya got anymore questions ask me man im sure we can help each other out here.

so far im on budget for around $6000 but thats everything form motor to boost gauge bov boost controler etc. including labour.

if you hunt around you can get things for cheap ive been lucky ot ome things for cheap other things not so cheap.

hope this helps

[Lloyd]

I've got a 4AGZE fuel pump here too Chris

[GTCRSHR]

lol hrt i know u do why do u think im thinking about doing all this

thank you matt and IFSN8U for ure comments .... very interesting

so is there any where in auckland that specialises in doing modifications like this ????

i would much rather (altho i would love the experience) pay some one else to do it

so using the factory 4age would be fine ??? just ising ZE interals ???

what type of 4agze did u get IFSN8U ??? out of a ae92 or a 101


also i am having a body kit made to fit the car which hope fully will mean i can keep the air con and mount the intercooler up there as well???? would that be possible

thanks again guys

[dylan]

I'm also seriously thinking of getting a GZE and turbocharging it. I already have a GTZ gearbox, lsd, clutch and drivetrain so how much would a decent GTZ engine be?

Buy new genuine pistons and rings from toyota to suit a GZE.
Open up your engine and fit them in. No need to change anything else.
New head gasket etc and reassemble it.

How much would it be for a standard 4AGE and GTZ pistons and rings? or would it just be better to get the real thing to start with?

Also what would I be looking at for a link stand alone ECU or is it better just to piggyback a feul management chip?

[JT]

How much would it be for a standard 4AGE and GTZ pistons and rings? or would it just be better to get the real thing to start with?

Also what would I be looking at for a link stand alone ECU or is it better just to piggyback a feul management chip?

The way I see it is you are better to buy the car with the base engine you want to have. If you want a really good base like the GZE and want to make some serious power why not buy a GTZ as you already have the box, shafts, engine and all ancileries in place? You will save alot of time and hassle OR money; unless you can do most of the labour yourself.

Matt has proposed the best option if you want to do it on a modest budget with what you already have. The box and shafts in the fx should stand up to it so long as you don't rape the gear changes and do skids everywhere. A good quote from RedMist on here is "Speed costs, how fast do you want to spend"

[Xyrath 86]

i know this guy that got a mint ae92 gtz for $700 from an auction, awesome

[Mr Revhead]

iv said it before and ill say it again:

silvertop 4age has same rods, crank etc as 4agze. just use gze pistons

basicly 4age use same rods, crank etc as corrosponding year 4agze

[Drifter4ag]

sorry mr revhead your part numbers are still wrong... 4agze rods are very different from any silvertop rod .. the big end and pin size is the only things that are even close,.

[matt dunn]

iv said it before and ill say it again:

silvertop 4age has same rods, crank etc as 4agze. just use gze pistons

basicly 4age use same rods, crank etc as corrosponding year 4agze

sorry mr revhead your part numbers are still wrong... 4agze rods are very different from any silvertop rod .. the big end and pin size is the only things that are even close,.

Right or wrong 20V rods will do as long as you realise your building a road car and dont aim for 400HP.

Still works out a lot cheaper than buying a GZE.

[Mr Revhead]

*sigh*
iv covered this before.... and proved that the 4age uses the same rods as the 4agze.... there are about 3 different rods (not including blue or blacktops) so of course as iv explained before it is possible to have a 20v silvertop rod and a 4agze rod and they will be different.

when it somes down to it 4age rods are suitable for turbos