superlows vs low

[Lunchie]

Hey i just brought a st185 gt4 and its lowered on king super lows and its way too impractical for around town and going into drive ways etc. Do any of you know how much of a difference putting standard king lowering springs in would make? What is the actual height difference? Are kings the best option to go for as far as value for money?

[atmosports]

Superlows are generally for show use only as they usually don't remain captive. Putting lows back in should raise the car around 20-25mm on average some cars raise/lower more there is no set figure. The ride will also be slightly firmer to start with as the lows don't need to be as soft initially like superlows to get the desired ride height. Kings are fine for road car use & easy to get hold of at a reasonable price, I'd recommend them over most others unless your going to spend the time/money to match up a set of Eibach's or similar

[rage]

will lows generally stay captive with stock shocks ?

[atmosports]

Lows are designed to stay captive with stock shocks & bolt in replacements & I've yet to see any that aren't unless they've been cut/heated etc or they are the wrong spring/shock for the car. Having uncaptive springs sin't all that dangerous providing they can't part company with the shock & can't work their way past the platforms & the car doesn't bottom excessively. A lot of our competiton stuff both cars & bikes run with uncaptive springs but we have a lot less clearance between the shock & spring as we usually run the smallest ID spring we can use that will fit over the shock body, bearing in mind that as the spring is compressed the ID/OD of the spring changes.

[Dr-X]

will lows generally stay captive with stock shocks ?

Yes. They are designed for the car you're putting them in, and in almost all cases they will remain captive.

[rage]

are kings lows firmer than standards so spring travel is the same as stock shocks ? i had issues with exhaust to driveshaft clearance (4wd) with my compressed springs, wher with a full load of people and big bumps, the rear axle used to mash the exhaust against the chassis.

sorry for hijacking :/

[atmosports]

King lows are softer initially the standard so you get the required drop in ride height as you go through their travel them will be firmer than stock to provide extra bottoming resistance as the car sits lower & has less distance til it bottoms, if you just lowered the car without firming the spring rate the car would bottom out quicker than easier than stock.

[Bazda]

super lows were crap in my ae92, they looked more like lows on normal cars. The superlows were still captive, if they werent they prob wouldnt make them.

[rage]

hey barry wat susp are u running now?

[Lunchie]

hey thanks heaps. that solves my problem completly as its not much fun having a nice car if you cant go cruising with your mates cos its too low

[tatsumaki]

In the context of the starlet gt turbo and starlet glanza v, our experience has shown superlows to have a softer spring rate than that of a "low" equivalent.

I have heard this to be the case with other models too but cannot confirm by first-hand experience.

We run koni adjustables and king lows in both our own cars, and run both cars quite comfortably at club tarmac and circuit events. We haven't seen justification for a coilover setup as yet.

Cheers,

Paul.

[Bazda]

hey barry wat susp are u running now?

click on the links on my signature they tell u everything.

tein type HA

[atmosports]

As I said above a superlow will initially be softer than a low this is so that the car sags(sits lower) than on low. The actual spring rate through the range is hard to compare exactly without putting both in a decent spring tester & graphing the results. But it is easy to go too progressive when it comes to suspension & what happens is that the suspension doesn't soaked up the small bumps & bottoms on the big bumps.

[[intrcool]]

hey,

i have superlows in my corolla, had to get my rear shocks shortened by 25mm to make the rear captive.. front was all good, no changes needed, they are solid as..

as for ride height, it looks like its on lows rather than superlows.. see my profile for a pic...

[Lunchie]

i think it depends alot on the car to start with.

[Mr Revhead]

interesting note, king superlows are listed as being for off road use only in aussie, they have stricter rules over there but an interesting thing nontheless.