Whats best/stock cam timing ?

[ChaosAD]

Does anyone know what the stock cam timing for a 16v bluetop 4age is?
I got a bluetop with adjustable cam gears and decked block/head etc and it has bulk flat spots which I think is due to the cam timing just being eyeballed.
So im going to set it with a protractor and dial gauge, just need to know what to set it to.

Thanks,

[NZ_AE86]

105 is a good place to start but there are alot of factors!

[Mr Revhead]

remind me tomorrow and ill fax you the stock specs if ya want

[ChaosAD]

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Factory/8762/TRDcampics.htm
This is what I need to do. I read on another site that it is about 111 deg for both of them but want a second opinion as the net isnt known for its accuracy.

[FLAWLES]

mmmmmm dial gauges mmmmmmm

i would pay someone to do that man
way to techo " mostly mucking around "

[ChaosAD]

Because I would rather spend the money on piss, tools etc than put the job in the 'too hard' bin and pay someone else to do it even though im perfectly capable of doing the job myself.

I you think of thing in terms of how many hours you have to work to pay for them it really puts things in perspective.

Ie, if you pay a mechanic $50 an hour for labour and you earn $12.50 after tax, then you will have to work 4 hours for every 1 hour he spends on the job. If he spends 3 hours doing the job (because its really fiddly and requires lots of piss-arseing around) you will have to work 12 hours to pay for it!!!
You could take whole a day off work to do the job and still have more money leftover than if youd payed the mechanic to do it.

Just something to think about aye.



NZ_AE86> So is 105 degrees the standard cam setting? or just one that you have found to work well for the bluetop cams?

[vvega]

i like to do the job myself because simlply put most workshops have no idea.....
if you want a job done right do it yaself
unless your cozmo
v

[matt dunn]

i like to do the job myself because simlply put most workshops have no idea.....
if you want a job done right do it yaself
unless your cozmo
v

Agreed,

I have paid money for thing to be done only to have to end up doing it again myself because they got it wrong.

[FLAWLES]

i like to do the job myself because simlply put most workshops have no idea.....
if you want a job done right do it yaself
unless your cozmo
v

or if your me stuff it up first time............. then pay vvega to do it

crap i still o u $$$

u will have it tomorrow man

[NZ_AE86]

Because I would rather spend the money on piss, tools etc than put the job in the 'too hard' bin and pay someone else to do it even though im perfectly capable of doing the job myself.

I you think of thing in terms of how many hours you have to work to pay for them it really puts things in perspective.

Ie, if you pay a mechanic $50 an hour for labour and you earn $12.50 after tax, then you will have to work 4 hours for every 1 hour he spends on the job. If he spends 3 hours doing the job (because its really fiddly and requires lots of piss-arseing around) you will have to work 12 hours to pay for it!!!
You could take whole a day off work to do the job and still have more money leftover than if youd payed the mechanic to do it.

Just something to think about aye.



NZ_AE86> So is 105 degrees the standard cam setting? or just one that you have found to work well for the bluetop cams?

I like you thinking!

105 is just a place to start. All engines are different! pm me with a list of your mods and I will get back to you with specs that will do but the only way to get the most is to fine tune it on a dyno really. Cam timing is an art. You did say standard cams?

[10k 20v]

mmmmmm dial gauges mmmmmmm

i would pay someone to do that man
way to techo " mostly mucking around "

pay me, pay me,

it's not that hard once you've done it a few times but takes time to get it perfect

i've heard 111 for both intake and exhaust stock for 16v