Superstrut wheel alignment specs for Celica

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Superstrut wheel alignment specs for Celica

Postby eddiewould » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:33 pm

Hey, would a superstrut Celica have different front end alignment specs to a normal Celica? if so where could I find these specs?

Because the SS model is fairly rare, it may be the case that wheel alignment places have been aligning my car to the wrong specs, hence why my steering is really heavy even right after getting an alignment.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:39 pm

i think youll find that theres very little scope for adjustment in them....

what tire pressures do you run?
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Postby eddiewould » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:41 pm

I've tried pretty much everything fromi 28psi to 38psi
I've had both the front struts (superstrut) replaced just recently at a cost of $1800... Rutherford and Bond toyota seemed to think it would fix the problem, it didn't. :|
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:49 pm

well id definitly run the higher end of those pressures.

well i dont know what your problem is, but i doubt it lies in alignment, be hard to get the caster adjustment needed to make it harder to turn....

also what do you mean by heavy? under what conditions? parking? open road? etc etc
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Postby eddiewould » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:56 pm

parking especially, but also around town - its okay on the motorway because you don't really need to turn that much. But you really notice it when parking the car, taking it in out of garage etc.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:10 pm

id go look for another one and see if its the same, maybe thats just how they are. has it alwasy done it? or just started?
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Postby eddiewould » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:31 pm

always done it since i got it a year ago.

Well compared to my mates celica which is the previous model, the steering is heavy as @#$@... it would surprise me if they'd made it heavier rather than lighter... but I guess I should drive one of exactly the same model just to be sure.

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Postby THA SHZ » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:53 am

Wot model celica is it ? and wot do u mean by heavy as warwick asked ?
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Postby eddiewould » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:31 pm

1994 SSII (ST202 w/3SGE) Celica Superstrut, LSD.

Its heavy as in there is more than the expected effort to turn the wheel. I always have to use two hands. It is especially noticible at lower speeds eg parking.

I have done the following to try and fix the problem with no success:

Flushed power steering pump, new fluid. PS belt inspected. PS system all-ok.
Replaced front suspension (shocks) + bushes, top hats, etc, and alignment.
Experimented with different tyre pressure settings.

Not sure what else there is to check really. I don't get any squeels or noises from the power steering system and the shop that did the flush says its all ok. Tyre wear isn't abnormal - although a bit more wear on the outside edge of the tyres than I'd like. Tyres are 4 of the same - Firestone Directionals, 215/40's.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:37 pm

really does sound to me that thats just they way the car is.... especially if its been looked at by a mechanic, did any of them say its was abnormally heavy?

as a matter of interest, what else are you used to driving?
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Postby GT4 20 » Fri Apr 15, 2005 1:28 pm

Maybe the steering rack is worn? Either that or you need a gym membership :wink:
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Postby THA SHZ » Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:39 pm

ok alignment specs for ur car are as follows and yes these r for a super strut suspension celica st202
FRONT:
left camber : - 0.17 degrees / tolerance 0.75 degrees
right camber : - 0.17 degrees / tolerance 0.75 degrees
cross camber : 0.50 degrees tolerance
caster : 2.58 degrees / tolerance 0.75 degrees
cross caster : 0.50 degrees tolerance
Total toe : 2.00 mm / tolerance 2.00 mm

REAR:
camber : - 1.08 degrees / tolerance 0.75 degrees
total toe : 3.00 mm / tolerance 2.00 mm

hope this helps any other qs let me know and if u wana post up ur specs than i may be able to help from there .
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Postby ChaosAD » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:08 pm

3mm toe out at the rear! that bitch must be tailey as $&#$%.
I had 2mm toe out on my fx and it handled mint on flat roads but when fanging it down uneven roads (almost all nz's roads) the weight transferring from side to side at the back made it VERY 'lively'
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Postby THA SHZ » Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:56 am

ChaosAD wrote:3mm toe out at the rear! that bitch must be tailey as $&#$%.
I had 2mm toe out on my fx and it handled mint on flat roads but when fanging it down uneven roads (almost all nz's roads) the weight transferring from side to side at the back made it VERY 'lively'


Um thats total toe dude so its actually 1.5 mm a side and possitive toe is toe in not out dude 8)
And in ur fx u wood have had 2mm total toe in and it compensates because in the fx u actually run - 0.50 degrees camber . 8)
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Postby ChaosAD » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:58 am

Yea, I realized it was total toe. I had 1mm a side toe OUT. Might have even been 1.5mm.
1.5 deg camber at front and 1 deg rear.
Works well on flat roads (tracks) as you dont need to turn the front wheels as much. But on our roads the ass end just wont stay put.
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