Superstrut to non superstrut

[nzhogrider]

I've got a 1996 BZG AE111 and it's super strut.
So they obviously did come out in them also.
Anyone tell me the differences to look for in regards to the facelift and non-facelift models ?

[AUGASM]

TRD adjustables = $3700

[bad20v]

As alot of people saw on sunday at the Import X thing, my BZR is not lowered at all from factory. It has standard s/strut suspension and I think it handles pretty good. Ive put it on the track plenty of times with no worries in the handling department. The only thing it was lacking in was the braking, but I have upgraded the pads and fluid since then anyway. The only reason that I would lower it was maybe for looks and to sharpen up the handling a bit, I had a better response from when I changed from 15" mags to 17" mags and lower profile tyres.
Unless your putting your vehicle on the track, or doing it up as a show car why bother with the full coilover system? $3700 is alot of money if your not going to use them properly, and with NZ roads, you might have to rebuild them more often than standard struts.

[Mr Revhead]

yup the best improvement you can make to your ae101/111 is a set of TRD springs and a good wheel alignment.

ignore the factory settings, they run 0.3 neg front and 1.3neg rear.... you want less neg in the rear and more in the front.

i run 1.3-1.5 in the front and 1 at the rear, made a huge difference. tyres wear perfectly even
but note that may not suit your driving style....

coil overs are a waste of money on the road.

and its a bit of a job converting from s/s to non, and not worth it at all. the arms only need replacing every now and then and its a lot cheaper to change them than the whole front suspension!

[EssDub]

I've had mine converted from SS to non-SS, Only real downside was having to run single-pot calipers...

I chucked some stiffer and lower springs in it, GT shocks, lost the ABS system (not that it is even needed) and it cost me about $1400 ^_^

Hardest part i found was finding a subframe, i think we used one from an XZ levin, but not sure.

Handles on rails at the moment, even on 195/60/14 rubber

[10k 20v]

well i can dispoint a few people here now as you dont need to change the subframe at all,

the main reson i converted to non ss was to save unsprung weight and gain adjustability through the use of bilstiens and adjustable coil overs and i keeped the ABS and 2 pot calipers but thinking of uprgrading these in the future.

[B1NZ]

mmmmm adjustable superstrut.......
how low can it go? does it still handle good. i want some i want some
( please dont say theyre like over $2000)

i have S/S with adjustables - although i only have adjustable damper and camber - not height which im not bothered about anyway, I think its GAB branded with Cusco camber plates - japan special (was on the car when i got it)

never had a problem with cornering, anyone thats been in it will tell you how it corners and braking is good with no brake fade on Lucas pads

[92GTApex]

Any problem with using single piston non s/s front rotors and callipers without the ABS? Engine check light or any other problems like that?

Logan

[Mr Revhead]

do you mean disabling ABS? if so you will need to cert it i beleive, if ABS dosent go, no wof for you!

[92GTApex]

Yeah thats what i was thinking... but was wondering if removing completely... in otherwords running a non s/s brake set up (as the factory did) would be all right for a warrant?
Otherwise im back on the look out for S/S front callipers, rotors, upright and lower rear arm

Logan

[Mr Revhead]

talk to the wof ppl.
but if you remove it completely you may be ok. but if its left in but deactivated, then its a fail

[92GTApex]

Yeah thats what i was thinking... but will check with my wof man before i go ahead with either option
Cheers

Logan

[AceSniper]

I've had mine converted from SS to non-SS, Only real downside was having to run single-pot calipers...

I chucked some stiffer and lower springs in it, GT shocks, lost the ABS system (not that it is even needed) and it cost me about $1400 ^_^

Hardest part i found was finding a subframe, i think we used one from an XZ levin, but not sure.

Handles on rails at the moment, even on 195/60/14 rubber

dude... dont tell BS your car was converted coz it had been crashed in japan, and they xz gear would have been the cheapist for them to fit. I wont uncover the rest of your fibs just dont talk shit.

[CozmoNz]

end of the day, Superstrut vs non superstrut, superstrut wins.

would you like *virable* toe in / out while cornering? no? then go for superstrut.

if you would rather your suspension parts pivoting around while cornering (thus, hindering your cornering ability), then go for non.

superstrut beats non, in factory trim.

[10k 20v]

cosmo you'll find the superstrut has a toe change problem as well, just not so prominent and the ss is mega heavy.

[Mr Revhead]

and it was designed to minimize camber change not toe.... for the wrc cars

[Dirtbag]

Is the superstrut mod on ae101s just on the front, or on both front and back?

[Mr Revhead]

s/s is front only, however the shocks and bushes are diferent ratings on the rear. that only applies to stock parts though.

[CozmoNz]

and it was designed to minimize camber change not toe.... for the wrc cars

still minimises it . well, sort of