Bump stops +ae101

[GTCRSHR]

quick question

how easy/hard is it to replace the rear bump stops in my car, and also is it possible to have higher ones so theres less travel ?

car is a 94 ae101 fxgt

[bad20v]

Its really not that hard to replace them. You just have to take out the rear struts, compress the springs and undo the strut top plates with a rattle gun. The bumpstops are pushed on to the strut shaft, so just pull them off by hand. Replace them with a new bumpstop and reverse the process.

But my question is: Why do you want less travel in your shocks? Usually if you have too much travel in your shocks, you have:

A: Worn springs

B: Worn shocks

C: Too much load in the rear of your vehicle.

If a vehicle hits the bumpstops every time it goes over a bump, it results in a very poor ride and can put stress on other parts of your suspension system and chassis.


So why do you want less travel?

[Ae92typeX]

as above,
but yes, you can get longer bumpstops if desired.

[diss7]

C: Too much load in the rear of your vehicle.

[GTCRSHR]

ok ere goes

it was one of the ideas i had (maybe it was wrong)

basically car has airbags and its runbbing on the bag when its fully deflated,


i have thought of everything wider spacers but i already have the maximum on there, thinner wheels but again already have the thinnest

the only other thing is maybe going to a 195 tyre instead of a 215

but it only needs to be raised about 2-3 cmto stop it rubbing, and to get a cert it needs to be able to be fully air less and still move,

my original idea was to get a cert at ride height and either carry wider spacers with me or put wider spacers on perminatnly (enough to clear it when its fully down (incase of emergency etc)

but no spacers wider thatn 20mm, are allowed

thus why i thought maybe a slightly taller bump stop would be the way to go ? (am i thinking the right way here ?)

the car cant be driven around at its lowest point due to it ripping the body kit off so this is why i wanted it certed at ride height = no problems but obviously i also wanted to make sure if i had a problem with the airbag system that iwouldnt be stranded

so.... any ideas

[neo]

a 101 fx with airbags ? wicked.. where the link to some pics?????

You could always double up the bumpstops, if u have a rubber boot over them / and the top of the strut no-one could tell u had 2 in there. (they also come in various sizes).

Ive always cut my bumpstops in half to allow more travel before I hit em =)

[GTCRSHR]

pictures will come when the body kit is finished

so theres no legalitys with adding bigger bump stops and this is going to make the body move down LESS correct ?

also, where do i get them made/what should i get some out off ?

and now the biggie .... is any one willing to come do the job i dont feel confident enough to do it my self to be honest,

[Caveman]

pictures will come when the body kit is finished

so theres no legalitys with adding bigger bump stops and this is going to make the body move down LESS correct ?

also, where do i get them made/what should i get some out off ?

and now the biggie .... is any one willing to come do the job i dont feel confident enough to do it my self to be honest,

seriously there easy as. IIRC the rear springs dont need spring clamps, take the strut out, just wack an impact wrench on the bolt and rattle it off. Top hat off, bump stop out, bigger bump stop in, top hat on, bolt back on, done

oh and put the strut back in. The rear dont have brake lines to deal with, only sway bar links but they can be rattled off easy as

[GTCRSHR]

and this is going to achive what i want to achive yes?

[Caveman]

Yes it will decrease the shock travel.

However the bump stops are not strong, and I highly dont recommend sitting on them with too much weight.



If you can see the brown thing at the top of the shock piston, all you need to do is get a longer one than that, or two which would be a good idea, infact you can have two I have here which are slightly toast but will do the job you want.

Oh and dont use shitty shitty monroe, shitty shitty shocks.

[GTCRSHR]

hi thats awsome, funny how a picture can help me so much

so where do i go to get them made up and what are a good make/brand ?

there wont be any weight on them at the end of the day its just for emergencies if the bag system fails and loses all air, and to get the cert

[bad20v]

Get heavy duty rubber ones from Shock Absorber Services, not those crappy foam ones as in that photo, as the tend to break down over time and can turn into to a lovely red flakey mess! Not pretty.
Shock Absorber Services have the heavy duty rubber ones in different sizes and heights, dependant on your shaft diameter etc. But they should have what you need, even if you have to use two per side.

[Caveman]

Most suspension shops will sell them, just please dont go to pedders...

They should be cheap as chips but not sure, just call around.

[GTCRSHR]

sweet ! thanks alot guys really helped ill see what i can sort out

[wde_bdy]

Whether that will work depends on your airbag setup. I assume it is actually air struts rather than bags, in which case the bumpstops are often part of the strut and can't be doubled up like a normal spring setup. Also if the rubbing is caused by the bag bulging out as it is deflated then the extra height may make no difference to the rubbing. You really need to post a photo of the rear suspension or everyone is just guessing what will work. Idicate where the rubbing problem is as well.
Another soultion could be bolt on spacers as they can go to 27mm and still be certed.

Callum

[GTCRSHR]

hey, nope airbags not struts due to the sound system in the back,

ill try take a photo tonight and post one up,

i already have 27mm spacers on at the moment

[Mr Revhead]

where do you fit the bags on the rear of an ae101?

[GTCRSHR]

:? where do you fit the bags on the rear of an ae101?

belive you me it wasnt easy thing to do

couple that in with the fact the front has super strut !!!!!

due to the super strut the front cant go down as much as i would have liked, (with out that oculd have gone another 2 inches at least but it would have been to costly to have it modified but not to worry it will be pretty low once the kit is on

[RedMist]

You're following a course of action that might get you certed. However it's definately not a solution that I would classify as safe or I would ever contemplate on completing on one of my cars.

Air bags are a rising rate spring. They are designed to offer little spring rate for the first few inches of travel then increase dramatically as they reach higher compression rates. By limiting the airbag travel you're guarinteeing that the car will contact the bumpstops on small bumps. With obvious consequences in regards to road holding.
In addition you'll repeatedly considerably load the bumpstop. I'm not familiar with that bumpstop mount but will it handle the load?

[GTCRSHR]

Even tho its only a couple of cm ? probably 5 at the most is that going to make a huge difference ?

have you got any other suggestions on how i could over come this problem obviously i want it to be safe, and as it stands i have driven it and it is 100% safe, APPART from the fact that if i was to lose air(bag failure etc) then i would be stranded OR if it was to happen whilest going 100 the tyre would rub against the bag and could cause me to skid out of control, hence the reason i want to get it sorted (which my thoughts of the wider spacer were for

anything you can suggest ?