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by **Timoz** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:40 pm

Hi all, just wondering if anyone here had try out the high octane Biofuel from Gull on a japanese import Toyota Allex/Runx with 2ZZGE engine?

Cheers

by **strx7** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:36 am

i put 20 litres of the stuff into our JZA80 non turbo supra while heading out for a sunday cruise yesterday and I swear its made better fuel economy

by **z0ton** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:42 am

strx7 wrote:i put 20 litres of the stuff into our JZA80 non turbo supra while heading out for a sunday cruise yesterday and I swear its made better fuel economy

I seem to get worse economy out of it compared to BP 98...

by **sponsormycrown** » Mon May 26, 2008 2:10 pm

In a worked evo 8 it gave 20 more hp over standard 91 wrf and race gas. Have seen dyno graphs to prove it. insane for pump gas!!!

by **AceSniper** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:40 pm

seams to run better in my 4a than bp

by **fangsport** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:49 pm

sponsormycrown wrote:In a worked evo 8 it gave 20 more hp over standard 91 wrf and race gas. Have seen dyno graphs to prove it. insane for pump gas!!!

is it too much to ask for a copy of these dyno results??
i tried telling a 'known tuner/supplier' that the group N rally cars are getting better power out of pump gas instewad of Avgas, and was promptly told that it was impossible.

by **Timoz** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:33 pm

thanks guys i'll go try it out next time i fill up my car

by **AE82 FXGT** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:57 pm

AceSniper wrote:seams to run better in my 4a than bp

So you've tried it in a 4a?
Have you done anything to your car or just chucked it in?
Noticed any adverse effects?

I'm keen to try but don't know how my car will like it, and not really in a position to experiment.

PICS UPDATED DAILY · by **method** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:59 am

AE82 FXGT wrote:
AceSniper wrote:seams to run better in my 4a than bp

So you've tried it in a 4a?
Have you done anything to your car or just chucked it in?
Noticed any adverse effects?

I'm keen to try but don't know how my car will like it, and not really in a position to experiment.

Its petrol, its only 10% ethanol it wont break anything. Its not like your suddenly putting methanol in.

Put some into my bluetop 4age with a turbo strapped to the side. Its happy as larry up till 7200rpm.

Would like to see dyno results and AF results. Im curious what the AF ratio will do with standard ECU used to running 0% ethanol compared to what they are with petrol.

by **Girvs** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:39 am

For those who wish to confirm it will run in their car

http://www.gull.co.nz/html/force10/compatibility.pdf

And thanks for the heasup STRX7, might try it in mine at some point, would be interested to see if theres any difference in efficiency with mine also. if only I could find a gull station near my house....

by **barryogen** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:55 am

Toyota NZ say that import Allex/RunX are no go, but NZ new Corollas with the 2zz are fine.

Apparently there are physical differences in the fuel systems, although, when asking them what parts are different between them, they gave me a bunch of part numbers which mine matched, so I'm not sure what they were on about, other than maybe they wanted me to buy some bits.

The guys in the US with pontiac vibes or celica gts seems to be fine using E10, and there were a few using E85 too without any hassles.

by **AceSniper** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:34 pm

mines not running stock ecu... but I had a stock blacktop onit that ran fine, and my new engine with work... reached 119kw atw on a floppy road tune, also hit 10,000rpm(9,970rpm CAS logged) on the stuff :lol:

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