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Postby themaleman » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:37 pm

Ok recently got my levin going again, replaced cv boots, wheel bearings, and oil change. And now its pretty smokey :( white smoke on idle and some of the time when im driving

today i found i filled it up with to much oil as when i removed the turbo oil drain, oil drained out of the pipe in the sump and the drain pipe its self.

would having to much oil in there have stuffed the oil seals on the turbo? or should i be looking else where for the problem?

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Postby Rick » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:32 pm

Whats the history of the turbo? new?, rebuilt? or second hand?
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Postby iOnic » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:37 pm

Yes oil can blow past the seals if you overfill the sump blocking the oil drain out of the turbo. Normally if it's only for a couple minutes you can get away with it. Pull the downpipe off and check if the turbine is oily, it shouldn't be.
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Postby themaleman » Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:42 pm

was being driven for a couple of days, drained excess oil 2day, seems like its smoking more tho. are new oil seals expensive?

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Postby DVSMOTORSPORT » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:30 pm

Is the oil white or blue? Generally blue is oil, white is water
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Postby themaleman » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:34 pm

white smoke, i checked the turbo for play when i drained the excess oil and there was no play in the shaft, and it still boosts fine, would this suggest that its not the turbo oil seals?
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Postby DVSMOTORSPORT » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:41 pm

When you checked the turbo, did you have the outlet side of the turbos intake housing off? If you did was there any oil in there?
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Postby themaleman » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:01 pm

i didn't take the turbo apart but there was sum oil in the inter cooler piping
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Postby escortman » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:22 pm

no steam is water, white is burnt oil
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Postby solitaire » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:51 am

I had this exact issue on my sw20, was caused by rooted oil seals due to oil gasket put on backwards and blocking oil drain.

Bad news it cost me close to a grand to fix it
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Postby DVSMOTORSPORT » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:29 pm

escortman wrote:no steam is water, white is burnt oil


And what colour is steam?
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Postby themaleman » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:18 pm

white smoke and it smells like burnt oil, i did replace the turbo oil drain gasket with gasket go but I'm pretty sure it wasn't blocked because oil came out when i primed the turbo before starting the car
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Postby escortman » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:32 am

DVSMOTORSPORT wrote:
escortman wrote:no steam is water, white is burnt oil


And what colour is steam?


steam is steam, white smoke is not steam... you can normally tell the difference
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Postby Luke - BZG » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:51 pm

I saw a huge white smoke cloud in the distance down the road a while back, I first thougth someone was doing an epic burnout. But as it came closer it was just a very very sick car, burning lots of oil.

I'm still impressed how a small exhaust pipe could expel so much frigging smoke!
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Postby xsspeed » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:03 pm

Blue smoke is mitsubishi
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:17 pm

xsspeed wrote:Blue smoke is mitsubishi


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Postby MAGN1T » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:30 pm

It might clear after driving a few Ks.

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Postby themaleman » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:16 pm

driven a few kms and its gotten worse
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Postby DVSMOTORSPORT » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:19 pm

xsspeed wrote:Blue smoke is mitsubishi


Being a Mitsi dealership Tech I can confirm this :lol: if its a mitsi and has black smoke then its a GDI.

If white smoke is oil then I must have been diagnosing cars wrong for the last 14 years :lol:
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:54 pm

Isn't blue smoke oil getting burnt inside the cylinders and white smoke is oil burnig outside of the cylinders, like oil passing by the turbo seals and burning in the exhaust.
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