Fuel consumption differences rav 4, caldina gtt, corolla.

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Fuel consumption differences rav 4, caldina gtt, corolla.

Postby LEAKER » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:18 pm

Hey guys. I currently own a gtt caldina and can't afford the running costs any more. I've been spending about $120 a week on gas and if i'm lucky i see 10km/l
Does anyone have an idea on what a Manual 4 door rav 4 (1994ish) or a AE111 Manual 4afe wagon would get on consumption.
I realise mileage etc come into account but it's just that a rav4 would be our preference however being a 4wd 2.0l i'm worried it's going to be considerably more to run than the corolla which is probably what i should be buying.

cheers
The GT4 is to Celicas what the GTR is to skylines.
User avatar
LEAKER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: Lower Mutt

Postby rollaholic » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:55 pm

i'd expect the corolla to return 8l/100km or better if driven calmly and all is working as it should.

bzg-bling has a rav4 and laughs loudly whenever someone mentions fuel economy. i think he talks about numbers like 14l / 100km
BASU!
User avatar
rollaholic
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 5383
Joined: Fri May 28, 2004 2:19 am
Location: West is Best

Postby LEAKER » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:11 pm

yeah ok so i'll be buying a corolla then lol
The GT4 is to Celicas what the GTR is to skylines.
User avatar
LEAKER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: Lower Mutt

Postby Al » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:14 pm

May as well get a Subaru if you want a Rav4. :lol:
85 Corolla GT - 08 Blade Master G
Image
User avatar
Al
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 6146
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:52 pm
Location: Christchurch

Postby LEAKER » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:18 pm

Al wrote:May as well get a Subaru if you want a Rav4. :lol:


wash your mouth out.
The GT4 is to Celicas what the GTR is to skylines.
User avatar
LEAKER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: Lower Mutt

Postby loudstealthGT-Four » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:24 pm

LEAKER wrote:
Al wrote:May as well get a Subaru if you want a Rav4. :lol:


wash your mouth out.


Coming from the guy contemplating buying a Rav4 :lol:
User avatar
loudstealthGT-Four
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 986
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 12:34 am
Location: Invercargill

Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:31 pm

rollaholic wrote:i'd expect the corolla to return 8l/100km or better if driven calmly and all is working as it should.

bzg-bling has a rav4 and laughs loudly whenever someone mentions fuel economy. i think he talks about numbers like 14l / 100km


My AE111 with 4AFE does around low to high 7s.


litres per 100k not 1/4 miles
:P

It will drink buckets less than the others you mention.
if running cost is a factor, the only thing that will beat a Corolla is a Starlet or Nifty 50
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Postby LEAKER » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:49 pm

loudstealthGT-Four wrote:
LEAKER wrote:
Al wrote:May as well get a Subaru if you want a Rav4. :lol:


wash your mouth out.


Coming from the guy contemplating buying a Rav4 :lol:


hey rav 4s aren't notoriously unreliable like subarus, just frowned upon for guys. Although i would only be looking at a 4 door which i think is a bit more ok for a guy.

please i don't need to hear how someones mate had a subaru that's done 6 billions kms. Thats not what this thread is about.
The GT4 is to Celicas what the GTR is to skylines.
User avatar
LEAKER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: Lower Mutt

Postby Bling » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:30 pm

No comparison in fuel economy, mines not manual though. If that is the main driver for the change, 4AFE it is :wink: Rav won't save you anything on the fuel bill.
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby andyztouring » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:08 pm

If you can afford one,go for a Fielder 1.8S,way more economical than the Corolla with the 4AFE engine.I had a Carib 1.6 auto 2WD(same as NZ new Corolla) ,replaced it with a Fielder 1.8S auto,in old terms went from 36-38 MPG with the Carib to 44-47MPG with the Fielder,much nicer car to drive,better car all round.
andyztouring
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 276
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:25 pm
Location: Rangiora

Postby Bling » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:12 pm

What motor is that?
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby Lloyd » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:41 pm

1ZZ-FE I would imagine
/2ZZ even. Either way...
User avatar
Lloyd
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 6195
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 1:50 pm
Location: Dunedin

Postby Bling » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:03 pm

Both that economical then? Have been browsing the 1.8 corollas, but wasn't sure what they went like and fuel economy wise.
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby RobertC » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:11 pm

You could go somewhere in between the GTT and the 4afe with a BZ touring wagon (blacktop 20v)

Done 10,000 km in mine since so far with an average economy of 11.9km/l that's 70% city driving and I don't drive economically. Usually gets about 15km/l open road driving.
MRAE111 wrote:ok thanks guys but wen u dont have trmpets i think the air flow quickeer into the throttle bodies
User avatar
RobertC
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 493
Joined: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:35 am
Location: Auckland

Postby KinLoud » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:40 am

My manual 4afe AE111 wagon - similar to MRrevhead 7 - 7.5 L/100 km
I used to think that the orange and green tictacs gave you special powers. The orange ones would make you stronger and the green ones would make you faster. So i used to eat some green ones and run around my lounge as fast as i could, then eat the orange ones and try to pick up the sofa. I wish it were true!
User avatar
KinLoud
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 2893
Joined: Thu May 16, 2002 7:39 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby MAC_HATER » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:32 am

LEAKER wrote:hey rav 4s aren't notoriously unreliable like subarus, just frowned upon for guys.


unfortunately they do get bought by halfwits, halfwits that run the poor little 3S-FE for 50,000km on the same oil, and then when it ruins itself in a big way after they notice its going slow and they have to really put the foot flat to make it drive, they RUSH to the trademe forums to tell anyone who will listed to stay away from Rav4's as they are all unreliable due to their single experience caused totally by their idiocy

ive seen this first hand haha, A good Friends uncle has owned one for a few years, and i have watched it turn from a reasonably clean car and sludgless engine, to a piece of shit thats ran all the bearings and said uncle throwing words like "ILL SUE THEM" around as if he knows what hes talking about :P
Image
~SlideWays~: Cars + Males = Single, therefore: Poptarts?
User avatar
MAC_HATER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1071
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:35 am
Location: Invercargill

Postby Bling » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:24 pm

I hate people like that. Herp Derp, must be someone elses fault my reliable car blew up due to abuse.
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby dnalunchie » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:56 pm

I have a 1990 corona with a 3sfe and it gets 650kms from 50ltrs. That is around town stop start and I am not super light footed.

My old blacktop levin got 12-14k's per ltr. or around 8ltr per 100kms.

Also consider that if you DO decide for something like a blacktop you really should be using 98 or 96/95 at a bare minimum, so that should be taken into account.

If you are working out real world fuel costs the older engines like the 3sfe may use 5-10% more petrol, but the cheaper octane petrol will off set that.

Also my sister has had a 1994 rav 4 for like 5 years, has always been very reliable but it does use a lot of petrol.
EX:89 RS and GT Legacys, 90 EF9 Civic, 95 Integra R, 95 AE101, 90 ST185, 88 Accord, 87 3rdoor and 5door Swift hatch, 91 Pontiac Lemans, 80 Liftback Celica, 95 Hornet 250
Current: 90 3sfe Corona
User avatar
dnalunchie
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3393
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:07 am
Location: Christchurch

Postby LEAKER » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:12 pm

yeah i think we will be looking at something like a 4afe ae111 station wagon or spacio. Do you think autos are that much worse on economy that it's worth worrying about. Keeping in mind i live in Wainuiomata and the hill downs petrol like the Heff downs viagra.
The GT4 is to Celicas what the GTR is to skylines.
User avatar
LEAKER
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 370
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:12 pm
Location: Lower Mutt

Postby Lloyd » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:14 pm

Drive a Spacio before you put it on the list of options...
User avatar
Lloyd
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 6195
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 1:50 pm
Location: Dunedin

Next

Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests