on its arse?

[Mr Revhead]

o dear, cut springs are not a good idea if you want a car to handle, in fact the ony way you could make it worse is by removing them completly!

cosmo: i can help you out here, you have several options, it all comes down to budget in the end. i can do a complete TRD kit for around $12-1400, thats a top-of-my-head figure, it will depend on specs you want etc.
send me an email and ill send you some info. i can also get whiteline, bilstein etc etc


its perfectly possible to lower your car and maintain a good ride, just needs some planning and careful choice of product

[Xyrath 86]

Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.

muppets who do this deserve to crash their car because of it and die...

that is all

wat scares me is that this guy may indeed own or drive an ae86


i have realised that mayb with the exception of the exhaust law the laws about cars ARE actually there not to stop us having fun, but to stop us killing ourselves

Hey, I never said I did it just that it can be done. My tutor told us this as he tells us all the dodgy shit for jokes.

[JT]

Just cut them and then paint them, Or compress them and then paint them, put some TRD stickers or somthin on them and then you have cheap TRD springs. To the warrent guy they are trd's anyway as far as he knows. Just gotta make sure ya shocks are the right height too.

muppets who do this deserve to crash their car because of it and die...

that is all

wat scares me is that this guy may indeed own or drive an ae86

i have realised that mayb with the exception of the exhaust law the laws about cars ARE actually there not to stop us having fun, but to stop us killing ourselves

The laws are there because there has to be a reasonable level of protection, that is protection from idiots. I think you guys over-reacted, cutting springs and compressing them are only illegal because of idiots who have no idea what they are doing but just want a low car. Either can be certified, it's just a pain that cert costs so much and everytime you change something it must be re-certified to stay 100% legal.

The cost of certification is the same as a new set of lowered springs so it's a tough call. Especially if you might be doing more changes which require a cert later on. Engine transplants are another contencious issue wether you should get a cert or not. Even if it requires a cert your wof station and anyone else might never know. Should everyone in this situation deserve to crash their car and die? Rules are Rules...

[Mr Revhead]

you may be able to get cut springs certed, but they will never be as good as ones made for the job.

the suspension rules are actually quite good i feel, there sooo many ppl out there or either dont care or dont know any better who will chop/heat parts just to get their car looking 'cool' oblivious to the fact they are making them more dangerous than me with a loaded gun

how many cars have you seen driving along wiht the fron tof the car bouncing up and down at every minor ripple in the road? thats NOT safe, those cars will not handle/brake as good as even a stock model

[RE20]

Someone cutting or compressing their springs does not make them a 'muppet'. Sure its not legal unless certed but it doesnt mean to say that it is dangerous. As long as the springs are captive and the car is not boncing how are they a danger?

and I agree with JT about the laws in regards to Got20v?s comment on laws. Of course they cant say cutting/compressing springs is completely legal, people would chop them in half on standard shocks, or compress them in their back yard by heating the spring! .

Which is why they can be certed, beacuse it can be done safely.

[Distrb]

Someone cutting their springs does not make them a 'muppet'.

as far as i see it, you'd have to be pretty retarded to cut your springs. if you cant afford to get your car as low as is satisfying to you whilst staying within the laws that govern that particular area, you cant afford to mod a car, so dont bother. Unfortunatly you cant help the stupidity of youth these days, so you get muppets doing potentially dangerous stuff like that..

IMHO anyone who wants to lop off a couple of coils or whatever off a factory spring deserves everything they get as a result of their actions. You cant honestly tell me that running on cut springs is a safe practice?

do it right, or dont bother at all.

[RE20]

No problems as long as it is captive? and it can work well if done properly. Although I can't see why someone would choose to cut instead of using proper springs?

Id take a coil out of my standard springs and match them with a good set of KYB shocks or similar.

But yeah I fully agree with the do it right, or dont bother at all approach, which is why when I lower my car I will be using king superlows with KYB shocks.