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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:55 am

Sergei, you are wrong. Didn't you know that every fault can be traced back to a BHG. You didn't run out of gas, you have a BHG.
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Postby MAC_HATER » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:16 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Sergei, you are wrong. Didn't you know that every fault can be traced back to a BHG. You didn't run out of gas, you have a BHG.


my alternator belt snapped on my celica - does that mean i have a BHG too?

would a bottle of this help?

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in all seriousness though - i was just at supercheap and a guy had a bottle of that in his hand and was quizzing a sales rep:

"so this stuff works well?"

"yeah man ive used a bottle myself - fixed it completley"

"what if ive cracked the head?"

"yeah will fix it no worries!"

"what if ive cracked it so bad water pisses out the side of the head and i can see the crack?"

"yeah it should do - you might need another bottle if it still leaks after the first one"

i just about pissed myself trying to contain my cackling laughter
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Postby strx7 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:06 am

Sealwell Cubes are the best Temporary fix for a headgasket issue
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Postby sergei » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:13 am

MAGN1T wrote:
sergei wrote:Most common case of radiator splitting is because of the deterioration of the plastic. Otherwise ~50% of cars on the roads have BHG...


Wrong.

They split due to too much pressure in the cooling system.

Exactly the same as the old copper / brass radiators also split at the solder seam with a BHG.
That normally happens after the hoses have popped and been replaced.

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Look, does it mean every second Odyssey, CRV, Celica/Curren that were imported in mid 2000's with slightly over 100k on the clock had blown head gaskets? How do explain there were no warranty claims done for even single one of those (and there were a lot of cars imported at that place) for blown head gasket? In fact I know couple of customers came back after couple of years and traded in the cars they bought off that had the top tanks replaced without any sign of BHG even after tens of thousands kilometres driven?

How do you explain my GT4, which had pressure cap that did not held pressure since I have imported it, and still managed somehow crack radiator "from too much pressure". And how come it cracked radiator about 75000 kms ago, after replacement of the radiator and pressure cap, has no problem what so ever (no over pressurisation, overheating or bubbling).

Sir, in this case you are full of shit.

Correlation is not causation. Yes, blown head gaskets can cause cracked radiator tanks, but it does not mean that all cracked radiators are caused by blown head gasket. To come to that conclusion is flawed logic.

IF A causes B, it does not necessarily means that only A causes B.

Additionally I suggest to read up on chemistry of ethylene glycol oxidation, and what those compounds do to plastics.
Here is the list of some of the compounds that ethylene glycol decomposes/oxidises into:
glycolic acid/aldehyde
glyoxylic acid/aldehyde
formic acid/aldehyde
carbonic acid/aldehyde
oxalic acid/aldehyde
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Postby RS13 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:08 pm

Sergei, you can't win against ignorance and stupidity. Magnet appears to be on the forums to incite trouble, rather than offer a helpful diagnosis.. nobody can be that blatantly stupid over and over again.

Just ignore him.
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Postby Luke - BZG » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:52 pm

RS13 wrote:Sergei, you can't win against ignorance and stupidity. Magnet appears to be on the forums to incite trouble, rather than offer a helpful diagnosis.. nobody can be that blatantly stupid over and over again.

Just ignore him.


Why the hell does he even post in tech treads? He's the author of every ignorant know-it-all diagnosis lately, and we point this out to him.
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Postby RS13 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:10 pm

Luke - BZG wrote:
RS13 wrote:Sergei, you can't win against ignorance and stupidity. Magnet appears to be on the forums to incite trouble, rather than offer a helpful diagnosis.. nobody can be that blatantly stupid over and over again.

Just ignore him.


Why the hell does he even post in tech treads? He's the author of every ignorant know-it-all diagnosis lately, and we point this out to him.

Wait a sec.. I just had a quick look through his posts on MMC.org. He actually has quite detailed technical knowledge, which makes it fairly obvious that hes' just here to troll.

MAGN1T wrote:Jeeze, you kids are fun to wind up.

Sums him up really, he is just here for the laugh. I vote ban.
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Postby Malcolm » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:54 pm

RS13 wrote:
MAGN1T wrote:Jeeze, you kids are fun to wind up.

Sums him up really, he is just here for the laugh. I vote ban.

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Postby rollaholic » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:37 pm

can we at least ban him from the tech forums?

will chip in for a doz of beers for the mod to make it so
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:40 pm

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Postby strx7 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:49 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Only Admins can ban


what are they waiting for? christmas?? its nearly here!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby MAGN1T » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:15 pm

It's a bit like debating einsteins theory of relativity in Kindergarten.
It's OK , most of you will figure it out in a few years when you grow up.

The "boys" have done about 3 soobys this week for BHGs as well as an XR6T falcon.
The XR6T did a perfect compression test, passed the TK test but still had a BHG.
What people tend to do is when the car starts playing up, trade it in after a bottle of Chemiweld. That just delays the inevitable which becomes somebody else's problem.

The leakage is dependant on the load on the motor, no doubt sergei drives like my mum.
If you all lived in Wainui and drove over the hill every day for 25 plus years, you'd all be a lot more knowledgable.

The "trolls" on here are the clueless ones who try to give out wrong information.

BTW most imported vehicles have been "clocked". My townace I used to have had at least 100 000 taken off it, it blew the HG at about 75 000 on the clock.
Scientists have recently found particles that travel faster than the speed of light.
Antifreeze needs changing at regular intervals and running with straight water CAUSES blown headgaskets.

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Postby rollaholic » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:26 pm

if we all lives in wainui it would be a much nicer place.

subys and fords blowing headgaskets, what a surprise.

no doubt you have a firm grasp on einstein too eh :)

come on man its obvious you arent clueless. why persist with the endless trumpeting of BHG every time an over heating thread pops up?
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Postby MAGN1T » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:30 pm

gt4dude wrote:
no matter what i do i cant get the air out,


You've answered your own question.
So where's it all coming from?

I guess what it is , is that stupid people don't like to be made to look stupid.

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Postby sergei » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:41 pm

MAGN1T wrote:The leakage is dependant on the load on the motor, no doubt sergei drives like my mum.


Bhahaha :) right.... So your mum occasionally enjoys herself on Hampton Downs?
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Postby CAMB01 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:43 pm

Steve your a cock. I vote ban.

You will have an air lock in the cooling system that will be stopping the thermostat from opening. Air will be coming from a blown head gasket. Happened in my EVO twice. Wouldnt lose water, but it would just randomly overheat. Bottom hose would be stone cold as the thermostat couldnt open.
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Postby Rob » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:37 pm

I couldn't be bothered reading through what everyone else said so this may have already been done.

The way I used to bleed cooling systems was to fill the radiator until it overflowed, then jam a funnel or similar into the radiator filler neck and start the car. Turn the heater on to demister to hot then fill until it settles.
I would run it until the fan came on a couple of times and fill as required.

If it was a difficult car like any mazda then I'd jack the front up as there would be an airlock in the heater .

I did this on hundreds of cars and it worked every time
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Postby strx7 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:51 pm

MAGN1T wrote:Scientists have recently found particles that travel faster than the speed of light.



Neutrinos were discovered years ago.....
by detecting them coming from one particular area, gives scientists enough time to put their telescopes in the right direction to view and record a super nova.


Subaru's always blow head gaskets, no suprises there, doesn't mean everything else does though.

Cracked plastic radiator tanks is not caused by BHG. A BHG can split a radiator tank, but it isn't the case always. Have you ever thought about getting a personalised plate IMABHG ????
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:52 pm

On topic from now on please.

Things are under way.
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Postby gt4dude » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:54 pm

i ran it from cold to warm today, showed people what it did with the radiator cap off, everyone said it was fine...

the first problems cropped up long before i owned the car from what it seems like. it was about 65,000 when the top tank blew off, it was about 60,000 ago when i had my first major overheat under my ownership

ive driven the car over 70,000 under my ownership, between then and now of hard driving, im not sure that a BHG would have lasted so long and still to this day make good power...

as i said the one and only symptom is the overflow and the loss of coolant through overflow, another thing, when its cold theres vacuum in the upper hose, so its spitting out coolant as usuall but not taking it back??
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