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Postby Caldina3SGTE » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:44 pm

Hey dude i live in hamilton
i just got my intake pipe done at sinco customs cost me 100 bucks and IC piping i done my self, Gains of fmic is colder air and looks mean, i have found that i haven't got that much lag from my set up and yea i have moved my battery to the boot not that hard to do

i'll get photos up for you if u wanna see how i ran my piping
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Postby Prommy » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:48 pm

That would be sweet thanks.
How do you have your intake from pod set up?

I don't see to many Cali's around let alone ones done up.
But i haven't really done the strip in a while.

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Postby flygt4 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:04 pm

they are millions of the things around now. have become very popular over the last 18 months
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Postby Prommy » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:24 pm

Standards yeah.

Im wanting to have a look at one thats been worked as i don't know what to do to it and the restrictions like what the internals can take etc etc..

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Postby flygt4 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:11 pm

search this site and you'll find all you need to know, and also why they arent worth getting too carried away with.
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Postby Prommy » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:20 pm

Sorry to sound dumb but what do you mean about not getting carried away with?
Aren't they worth doing up?
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:31 pm

You have to do it the right way, and its not exactly cheap. Cut corners and they will break in some ways.

Doing a search will show you what to do and what not to do.
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Postby Prommy » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:39 pm

Cheers guys

Will try and hunt around the site cause i don't really know what to do to it.
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:44 pm

not unless you're prepared to do it properly and spend a lot of money.

the engine can have a fragile response to bolton mods due to ECU not being very tolerant of changes in airflow/fuelling. a quick search shows you all the boost/turbo/transmission/engine failure related issues arisen from trying to screw more power out of them cheaply.

TWSTD from here used to have the fairly modified driven performance caldina.
fivebob is also somewhat of an authority on the engine from these things.
search for posts regarding exactly what you wish to modify and youll probly find an answer, although the original thread that was like 100 pages long seems to have been cropped now?

get an aftermarket exhaust and a drop-in panel filter for the stock airbox. if you're feeling really fancy maybe a medium sized front mount. leave the stock BOV in place. then maybe some firmer TRD or tein springs and a sway bar and that'll be about all thats worth doing.
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Postby Prommy » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:55 pm

Thanks

At the mo i have cat back exhaust and am thinking of putting dump pipe on.
Have an HKS pod on as well came with the car but read in another string that to leave the panels in is better.
Was thinking of getting exhaust manifold from driven pro too.
And also put in a piggy back ECU as well.

But if its not worth it then not too sure about my ideas.

Thanks for the info guys!!! :D
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Postby postfach » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:48 am

Just FYI, if you replace the exhaust manifold you're going to need a turbo too, since the stock one on your car is actually integrated into the manifold.
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Postby Prommy » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:51 am

Oh really :oops:
Did not know that.

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Postby gleem » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:58 pm

im currently in the process of doing some mods to mine, t3/t4, manifold, fmic would that upset the car beacuse of the ecu isnt designed to run this? Looking at getting a aftermarket ecu in the future but cant really afford it right now.
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Postby flygt4 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:07 pm

front mount would be fine.

depending on the size difference in turbos i'd say its most likely it will end up having incorrect fuelling at some point in the rev range.
in saying that it might be completely fine, who knows. you'd hate to go to all that effort, do a dyno run to find that ratios were all out and then have to put it all back together again with standard parts or wire in an ECU before you can drive it very far.

i would consider it like gambling with the price of a rebuilt engine (2-3k). are you feeling lucky? :wink:

there was one guy on this forum years ago who felt that running a bad batch of fuel one time (91) on a hot enough day was enough to cause detonation that resulted in a cracked ring land and engine failure 6 months later. who knows if that assumption was correct though.
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Postby 99gtt » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:26 pm

Speaking from experience , i have owned my caldina for 5 years now .Daily driven and has made hundreds of passes down the 1/4 mile from in its standard trim to its current state, front mount intercooler, to4e turbo,stainless exhaust manifold, external waste gate, 3 inch exhaust right through ,tial bov, . been running this setup for two years on factory computer and have not had any problems at all. Dynoed at 234 kw at the wheels on 14 psi controlled by waste gate spring and all the air fuel ratios perfect . So for people only looking for this sort of power i say as long as you maintain your car and put descent fuel in, there is no reason for an after market ecu . Myself am looking for more and have a 2nd engine in the build at the moment with forged internals and head work which will require an after market ecu. So from my abuse over the last 5 years and the car still going strong with 146000 kms on the clock the factory ecu stands up to the task well. And there is no way you can get the same drivability from an after market ecu so unless you are going for big power i see no reson to change
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Postby flygt4 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:40 pm

lol you're brave, and that would be the exception. i know of quite a few that have suffered detonation related engine failures.
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Postby 99gtt » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:16 pm

flygt4 wrote:lol you're brave, and that would be the exception. i know of quite a few that have suffered detonation related engine failures.
you know of exactly my point you dont no what they did to cause the failure , thats why i am saying from owning a caldina . I am not the only one here with these mods that have never experienced trouble. The people with the blown engines are the exception as the ones on toyspeed that i have read with engine failures have all had stock engines
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Postby bbq1988 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:26 pm

Prommy wrote:Thanks

At the mo i have cat back exhaust and am thinking of putting dump pipe on.
Have an HKS pod on as well came with the car but read in another string that to leave the panels in is better.
Was thinking of getting exhaust manifold from driven pro too.
And also put in a piggy back ECU as well.

But if its not worth it then not too sure about my ideas.

Thanks for the info guys!!! :D


If you find a aftermarket dump pipe Pm me, i want one too :(
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Postby gleem » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:30 pm

bbq i was looking for a while, there are none to fit the factory turbo but xspower make one that bolts on to a t3/t4 but its a lot cheaper to get one custom made than importing it.
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Postby bbq1988 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:47 pm

Yeah, i think i might just have to get one made, no one seems to be able to supply them anyways
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