AE92 Levin Drifter?

[Shady_Dan]

Ok i got this plan for a RWD levin in the AE92 Shape. I reckon it would be an interesting concept but i'd like some ideas on how I'd Go about it.

I have one of two ways that i can see feasable with out going into the hundreds of thousands of dollars doing it.

A) Get all the driveline etc fabricated, then make a tunnel for the driveline to fit, be a lot of $&#$% around but i reckon it would work. Gearbox choice i was thinking of getting something like an W55 Supra 5 speed, and get a shortened 9" ford diff, or a hilux one. Be a lot of work, but its possible.

B) I get an AE86 Levin and rip the chassis off it just leaving the floor pan and drop the AE92 Chassis on it. As the wheel base of these two models isnt too much different from eachother i cant see there being too many problems.

Engine wise i would like to keep the 4AGE 16 valve, but get one out of an AW11 mr2, or the 3sgte out of an SW20. If im gonna make a drifter may as well get a decent engine.

Any more thoughts on this, critisism or otherwise, feel free, im not going to be doing this anytime in the future, its just nice to know that if i had the money to go "i want to do this to my car" i can with out too many hassles.

[bridgeport]

the cost would out weigh any benfits everyone asks these sort of questions all the time and they all get the same answers
lot of money time effort not worth doing

[Shady_Dan]

yeah i know aye, im not gonna do it anytime soon, but if the opportunity came up at all to do it, just be assuring to know there wouldnt be any majors given that everythings been done right.

And i said that this was an idea, and its all theoretical for me atm as money isnt exactly abundant, all i was trying to get at whether it would be a pain in the ass, regardles of the money issue.

i mean, ppl will do this sort of thing regardless of cost. Perfet example is of a guy down in Tauranga here. Has a 1990 Civic Hatch with a 12a 6 port in it. wouldve been a mission to do being that everything wouldve been fabricated and fiddled around to match (and made a whole heap harder as the fact that mazda never made any FWD rotaries). But given enuff time and patience, anything is possible

[deaf_rattle]

why?

by the way fwd rotors arent as hard as you think

[Bazda]

yea rwd ae92, damn there would be heaps of fabrication work needed to be done at the rear of the car, then all new eng mounts etc.
Good place would be Herbert Fabrications, the owner there can do anything, he has converted a old school mini to RWD and it got a V8 eng in it for drag racing!!!

[Shotgun]

I like my concept better.

A) Just get a Levin coupe ae85 and put the engine and driveline that you want in it. You will have the same package that your plan outlines but it will look like slightly different. It WILL be a thoroughly more sorted chunk of metal than any dodgy 85/92 hybrid unless build by some race fabrication place.

B) Use the 10 thousand dollars you save to go on a world tour of Europe, Scandinavia and the subcontinent.

[rettun]

convert a st185 into a rear wheel drive drifter :>

[Ae92typeX]

or get a 4wd ae92 corolla/sprinter and go from there swapping pannels etc- it'd be easier than an ae85/6-92mod...if it really had to be done n e way.

[JRS]

u do know the difference between a full chassis and a monocoque (sp?) right?

[bridgeport]

yeah fwd rotary isnt hard at all www.rotor.tk (if it still works)
big difference between custom engine mounts and adapter to re fabricating a whole floor pan

chassis arnt like they were back in the day ie lift the cab from the chassis and leave the rails expozed ready for a new skid lid now days you have 2 sub frames which are an integral part of the body of the car ie not seperatable

*suspention mounting points for a diff
*body strenth
*fwd hubs breaks ect how will you convert ie ditching the driveshafts
*fwd x member ???? need something made and the standard ones facing the wrong way
*4age fitting in rwd configeration hitting firewall
* fuel lines and tank relocation diff now takes place
*suspention travel

so many more problems i cant think of at this time in the morning

peace

[Mr Revhead]

B) I get an AE86 Levin and rip the chassis off it just leaving the floor pan and drop the AE92 Chassis on it. As the wheel base of these two models isnt too much different from eachother i cant see there being too many problems

not many problems? try all of them!!

iv often looked at my ae101 and thought about what it would take.
youd have to cut the trans tunnel out of something, make up some kind of cross member to carry the engine and box. cut out the floor of the boot and remake that with mounting and bracing to suit........ no matter how you look at it it will cost $$$$ but id love to see it done. its definitly not impossible. i reckon it could be done without costing millons!

[92GTApex]

Im sure I remember seeing some pics of an AE101 converted to RWD running a 1JZ, (well thats what I remember of it)
Ive been looking for more information on it ever since

Logan

[Mr Revhead]

yup theres 2 in nz iv seen em both in fact i know the ppl who built it quite well.
both pure race only. no way they are road legal!

[92GTApex]

both pure race only

It looked that way from the pic I saw(the one and only pic Ive seen)
Not that that worries me being purely race orientated, I would love to find out some more info on them

Logan

[toyonut]

that was the biggest problem i could think of, sure you could throw enough money at it to get built, but how would you convince ltsa to let it drive on the road.

you could always just live with an older levin/trueno and change some body panels and engine/driveline bits over

[Mr Revhead]

what info exactly?

[92GTApex]

Build info, Engine specs, How the set up the rear end(multi link/wishbone)
Chassis modifications, any of that sort of thing
I dont suppose they have a website about either of them do they?

Logan

[Mr Revhead]

ill get onto them and let you know...

[92GTApex]

Cheers for that Mr Revhead

Logan

[matt dunn]

Im sure I remember seeing some pics of an AE101 converted to RWD running a 1JZ, (well thats what I remember of it)
Ive been looking for more information on it ever since
Build info, Engine specs, How the set up the rear end(multi link/wishbone)
Chassis modifications, any of that sort of thing
I dont suppose they have a website about either of them do they?

Logan

My father and I built both of them.

First one was AE101 with 1JZGTE link ECUand W55 built to sprint race spec.
My brother ran the car in the south island OSCA series and it is still the only non V8 car to win the championsip.

The second was the smae but built for endurance racing.
It runs a 2JZGTE and the later model 5 speed box.
It runs larger 17" wheels with more wheel travel ( chasis rails can touch the ground and the wheels still dont run inside the guards) and has a link plus and enormus fuel cell in the boot.

Other than that both built the same.

Ae101 body shell, JZ series engine with the front cylinder located behind the front axel,
RX7 series 4/5 rear end complete, diff, axels, hubs, arms etc,
RX7 Series 4/5 front cross member steering rack and lower arms,
Custom made everything else.
tunnel out of RX7 or nissan silvia
Set back driving position,
The cars are built to SI enduro rules so are not spaceframed meaning the if you remove the roll cage the car is actually capable of being complete unlike tranzam's etc where the cage is the chassis.

What else would you like to know?

I see someone in Akl has copied and done similar to a Corona but i think it has a tubbed rear end.

Matt