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Postby levinwreck » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:21 pm

my car seems to be running awfully rich. when i go up hill i can smell gas and i got someone to follow me upp the other day and he said it there was quite a bti of black smoke exiting the exhust. any ideas on how to tue it or may something be wrong with injectors comp????
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Postby CAMB01 » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:41 pm

Try running an injector cleaner through it. My mate tried this aerosol type cleaner that you plumb into the fuel line temporarily, disconnect the return line, and fuel pump and run the engine on that. Don't know how long for maybe about 30 seconds. It made a huge difference in power and economy.
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Postby GOLDAE86 » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:12 pm

Check your fuel pressure, plugs air filter etc, if all ok get it on to a gas analiser and go from there.
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Postby Bazda » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:43 pm

probably your O2 sensor quite a common thing to replace when the car gets old, I thought if your injectors are blocked up it would run lean......maybe...
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Postby FLAWLES » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:27 pm

rich = to much fuel
lean = not anuff


lean would be blocked injectors
rich mmmm like bazda says o2 sensor
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Postby KinLoud » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:08 am

4agze's run rich at full throttle/boost - this makes the smoke.
It is set up like that at the factory to make (very) sure that it won't run lean. Lean could equal detonation, burnt valves, sad owner.
Many engines have died from being slightly lean.
Few engines have died from being a bit rich.
My AE101 GTZ Trueno makes a bit of black smoke when I have my foot right up it as well!

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Postby Bazda » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:24 am

when mine was s/c it made no smoke at all, it didnt know the meaning of it, and now its turbo is still makes no smoke and hope fully never will!!
get that 02 sendor changed.
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Postby KinLoud » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:33 pm

I think the 4agze at full throttle the computer doesn't use the oxygen sensor to set mixture, it uses a fuel map in it's memory.
I only found out about the black smoke when a friend told me after following me in his car. I never saw it in the mirror.

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Postby vvega » Fri Oct 29, 2004 3:42 pm

could be the ecu temp sensor is naffed as well
that can also make the engine run richer

full thottle is closed map anyways so it will run off a pre defined value
open map is normally partial throttle for fuel saving and cruze

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Postby levinwreck » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:02 pm

thank you for your replys i am going to check all this out and if i cant solve it a professional will
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Postby Dr-X » Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:58 pm

Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?

4agze's run rich at full throttle/boost - this makes the smoke.
It is set up like that at the factory to make (very) sure that it won't run lean.

So you're telling me these cars blew smoke coming off the showroom floor? Ok, dude...

I think the 4agze at full throttle the computer doesn't use the oxygen sensor to set mixture, it uses a fuel map in it's memory.

No engines use the O2 sensor at WOT.
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Postby 10k 20v » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:15 pm

Dr-X wrote:Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?


must the majority of you replys put people down :roll:

YES: The 4agze does blow smoke from the factory, so does the 20v and the majority of force fed japanese cars

P.S. I'm not going to reply to any of your comments aimed at me in this topic
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Postby Caveman » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:04 pm

The 4agze only runs on a fuel map when you are boosting. It has two complete ingnition and fuel systems, boosted and NA. NA runs off the afm/map, sensors etc. Boost runs slightly rich but no by very much.
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Postby suberimakuri » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:07 pm

put it on the dyno.

check the crap coming out your breathers too.
maybe the motors on the way?
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Postby vvega » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:25 pm

Dr-X wrote:Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?

4agze's run rich at full throttle/boost - this makes the smoke.
It is set up like that at the factory to make (very) sure that it won't run lean.

So you're telling me these cars blew smoke coming off the showroom floor? Ok, dude...

I think the 4agze at full throttle the computer doesn't use the oxygen sensor to set mixture, it uses a fuel map in it's memory.

No engines use the O2 sensor at WOT.


funny thing is nethier are you
he said that they dont use the o2 and you bagged him for it
saying the same thing
maybe if you read what people said and didnt just try to bag people all the time you might learn something and not end up looking like a complete $&#$%

and hers a shocker
lots of early turbo cars smoke from factory
its part of tring to cope with somany prefactored countrys conditions

so both ya comments are about as clever as you

heres some advice

its better to shut ya hole and let people think your a idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt

much liek you just did

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Postby Dr-X » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:25 pm

vvega wrote:
Dr-X wrote:Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?

4agze's run rich at full throttle/boost - this makes the smoke.
It is set up like that at the factory to make (very) sure that it won't run lean.

So you're telling me these cars blew smoke coming off the showroom floor? Ok, dude...

I think the 4agze at full throttle the computer doesn't use the oxygen sensor to set mixture, it uses a fuel map in it's memory.

No engines use the O2 sensor at WOT.


funny thing is nethier are you
he said that they dont use the o2 and you bagged him for it
saying the same thing
maybe if you read what people said and didnt just try to bag people all the time you might learn something and not end up looking like a complete $&#$%

and hers a shocker
lots of early turbo cars smoke from factory
its part of tring to cope with somany prefactored countrys conditions

so both ya comments are about as clever as you

heres some advice

its better to shut ya hole and let people think your a idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt

much liek you just did

v


Can you please repeat your post in coherent english? Once I understand it I may have a chance of rebutting it.
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Postby Al » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:48 pm

Dr-X wrote:Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?


Yet another stunning example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Keep up with your potshots and you will have yourself your first warning and maybe you too can join Levin_kid.
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Spelling lesson

Postby KinLoud » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:04 pm

Dr-X - these are all your own words

"You'll need to learn how to spell first"
"Rediculas"
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"Talking down on him must have made you feel real big"

"Kinloud, you're not the brightest crayon in the box, eh?"

Hmmmmm. Can you spell insecure?

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Postby jacko » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:14 pm

Small winky syndrome.
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Postby KinLoud » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:28 pm

And here is another classic from Dr-X:

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"I've got a '95 Carina ED with an auto gbox. While im enjoying the comforts of auto at the moment, I think next year some time I'll feel the need to convert her to a manual. This car has a 3SFE motor in it. Is this conversion difficult, or are the parts readily available and easily modifiable to fit?"

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"I've never understood people who buy an auto, just to convert it. Why dont you buy a manual in the first place? They are around, and not difficult to find."

Oh boy... this is going to be good!

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