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Postby phat_levin » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:23 pm

ok, ive got an ae101 trueno and wana do something with the intake. should i go pod or just get a panel filter?
or should i just leave it - ie am i gona get any noticeable gains?
if i was to go pod how could i do i cold air setup without moving my optima battery? would i get sufficient air flow from under the left front guard where that box from the factory setup sits? should i just put a pod on and make an adapter to keep the rest of the factory setup??????? :?
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Postby CozmoNz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:58 pm

ok, if you have an afm, dont get a poddie, they fux ur air fuel ratios up since the air is quite turbulant.

instead, attached the afm to a pipe, which attaches to the poddie say :).

or keep with the panel idea, and plump a pipe down to a *cold air duct* so it can suck its heart out with cold air.

im not fond of poddies..... to *get a podie bro*... they make a kewl noise on turbo cars... but thats about it.
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Postby TygerTung » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:02 pm

One thing to remember, that a factory element will flow pretty much as well as a k&n. Just putting in a panel filter won't do anything.

You have to chop large holes in the airbox or fit a pod.

Turbulance shouldn't affect the air/fuel mixtures at all as toyota's use a flapper type airflow meter....
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Postby CozmoNz » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:03 pm

tru, i thought they used hot wire?

meh... i dont own a car with a afm neither does my gf...

(trueno, and cynos, both map sensors). so i dont really care ^_^ but i like my panel filter, its preddy
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:39 pm

Get a panel if you intend to keep the car (K&N whatever). Just cause they're reusable... all you have to do is clean it 4-5 times and you're into saving money... Of course this takes like 4-5 years unless you drive in dusty dirty conditions...

I like the cold air feed idea. I've done a couple of these, they are really useful during traffic lights, help stabilise air temps...
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Postby ants_ae92 » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:44 pm

You have to watch pod filters under the front guards. Think inter and big puddles of water. Not a good idea to be sucking water into the engine with air and fuel.

Better to move battery and make cold air box, but since you dont want to move it, go for a panel filter.

And why arent pod filters reusable. All they need is a clean as well, duh!
K and n's are cleanable.
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Postby malc » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:59 pm

don't get a pod filter if your not going to make a cold air box.
sucking in that hot air from the engine bay aint no bargain!
the factory plumbing will probably be better with a nice new filter, and getting another pipe going to somewhere with some more cold air can be beneficial - I did this on my ae92 and it seems to go alright.
Like said before if you really want a pod, make a cold air box if you want some decent gains.
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Postby minijrocks » Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:26 pm

wheres the best place to get bendy plastic/rubber stuff for some ducting. I got some of that tinfoil type stuff and its to big (circumference) so im trying to find some kind of bendy piping that will fit to the original intake big (aobut 8cm diameter, 4cm radius)
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Postby phat_levin » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:23 pm

is doing anything to my intake going to give me much performance gain or will it be f all?
thanks for the ideas :D
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Postby TygerTung » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:31 pm

I don't think you'll notice a difference.
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Postby ants_ae92 » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:56 am

My 4age had a pod on it when I got it. There is a big difference in intake noise, and at higher speeds, ie cool air flowing into engine bay, it is good. But sitting at the lights, is bad. Next on my list is a cold air box and battery in boot.

Minimal gains just by itself. But add it to other mods.....
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Re: Air intake ideas....

Postby Disco » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:57 am

phat_levin wrote:ok, ive got an ae101 trueno and wana do something with the intake. should i go pod or just get a panel filter?
or should i just leave it - ie am i gona get any noticeable gains?
if i was to go pod how could i do i cold air setup without moving my optima battery? would i get sufficient air flow from under the left front guard where that box from the factory setup sits? should i just put a pod on and make an adapter to keep the rest of the factory setup??????? :?


Best bet IMO (and had you used the ImageSearch function you probably would have found this :D) is to leave the factory intake where it is, take the resonator box out if you have to (it's in the bumper so may have to remove this) and get a K&N Panel filter.

This way you're going to be drawing much colder air than you would with a pod (most of it coming from the front bumper cavity where the resonator box would sit) and will actually sound pretty cool too.
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Postby Stealer Of Souls » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:40 am

ants_ae92 wrote:And why arent pod filters reusable. All they need is a clean as well, duh!
K and n's are cleanable.

Didn't mean pods weren't cleanable...
Just saying if ya gonna stick with the car a cleanable panel is good (saves money in long run) and a cold air feed will help level intake temps when sitting around.
Got to agree with most people saying get a pod and cold air box if you can. But I think this is best when coupled with other mods, exhaust, turbo, TB upgrades etc...
Not really useful on their own... But that's my opinion...
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Re: Air intake ideas....

Postby phat_levin » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:28 pm

Disco wrote: take the resonator box out if you have to....


what do u mean if i 'have' to? are you saying take off everything before the resonator so that i have the factory setup taking cold air out of the font left guard?
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Re: Air intake ideas....

Postby Disco » Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:29 am

phat_levin wrote:
Disco wrote: take the resonator box out if you have to....


what do u mean if i 'have' to? are you saying take off everything before the resonator so that i have the factory setup taking cold air out of the font left guard?


Basically yeah... - you've got the peice that runs along behind the headlight that goes around to the peice under the fuse box that has a hole in the bottom.

I'd take off the first peice and block the end of the second peice and take the resonator box out (when I said 'If you have to" I meant "If you can be bothered" but if you're gonna take my suggestion, you'll probably want to...)

Another trick I've heard of is getting the resonator box and sawing the front side off so it acts as a giant scoop in your bumper (remembering that airflow will actually get there from the front of the car and you can look in there to figure out what to change for more airflow - there's a little rubber flap that sits in the front bumper cavity that directs air onto the radiator... take that off or move it around so that it's directing air into the bumper.
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Postby phat_levin » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:01 pm

"block the end of the second peice " - sorry im not quite with you there!? (and yes i am familiar with the setup down there :P)

whats the chances of sucking up some water from in there tho?

whats the model number of the k & n panel filter id b after?

why go for a new one whats wrong with the one ive got?
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Postby Disco » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:57 pm

phat_levin wrote:"block the end of the second peice " - sorry im not quite with you there!? (and yes i am familiar with the setup down there :P)



yeah sorry, wasn't too clear

The second peice I was referring to is the bit that goes from the bottom of the airbox through, under the fuse box that has a hole in the bottom of it down to the resonator. - I'll draw you a picture when I get home (because I have camera, photoshop and the ability to host from there)

phat_levin wrote:whats the chances of sucking up some water from in there tho?


The chances of sucking up water are virtually non existant unless you rev your engine with a fire hose up the intake.. :wink:
It would have to get past several turns, an air filter, an airflow meter and the 4 trumpets on your throttle bodies - this pretty much only happens when your engine is running and your guard mounted pod filter goes into a puddle. - as the bottom of the bumper will stop puddles I wouldn't be too concerned.

as for the model number of the K&N Filter you require...

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q= ... part&meta=

Don't be lazy :wink:

phat_levin wrote:why go for a new one whats wrong with the one ive got?


You never mentioned that you had a filter dude... - K&Ns are reputable but you can get what you like.. 8)

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Postby phat_levin » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:01 pm

i have the factory one :wink: what model of the K&N one do i want, ive seen people suggest them then some1 else says that that one doesnt fit!! :?
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Postby Disco » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:15 pm

here's proof that advertising works..

go into japrace and ask them for one, they'll probably have it.
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Postby malc » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:29 pm

its a 4age man!
of course they will have a filter to fit
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