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Postby smokabitabud » Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:51 pm

i took the spoiler off cos cos i saw some on the net and recons it looks better is this going to do ne thing to the handling at high speed.

what r the first things u do to the ae111's to make them faster as mine is stock standard and should i get everything done at a shop so its mint?

and just a quick proud moment for me...... 2 of my m8s just got supercharged truenos and we were cruising round last nite and neither of them could beat my little standard 20v :D :D. b4 we went i thought i had no chance cos when ur in there cars they feel so much faster........
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Postby dotdog » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:33 pm

Leave the spoiler on, they look so try hard wana be drifter with them off. Get a good quailty pod filter and a exhaust to start off with, ive just put a hks pod on mine and it goes heaps better
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Postby alastabesta » Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:39 pm

spoilers are pretty useless within legal speeds... only at high speed will you notice the difference really.

intake + exhaust + strip could be a good place to start...?
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Postby smokabitabud » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:59 am

so im guessing im going to have to take it in and get a stainless pipe to a filter put on then for best results?

for the exhaust i think the guy said 2 1/2 inch from headers is that the sorta size id want? and what r they standard cos it doesnt look small ay...

so the spoiler DEFINATLY will make the handling worse if i was doing like 190+??????

oh and also what would be the best computer to put in it for max power increase and best results if im looking at doing alot of work to it
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Postby alastabesta » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:07 am

alot of the guys here drives ae111 and they will know more than me - i'm more into cosmetic mods rather than performance at the moment. 8)

to my knowledge spoilers provides a downforce which makes ur vehicle stable therefore at low speed there basically isn't enough "force" to be pressed down and that's what I meant by "useless" within legal limit.
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Postby Dr-X » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:02 pm

dotdog wrote:Leave the spoiler on, they look so try hard wana be drifter with them off.


Well, that's a matter of opinion. Personally, I'm not one for rice or try-hardedness, but I prefer 111's without wings. And factory wings are simply cosmetic. You're not going to notice any handling difference.
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Postby smokabitabud » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:17 pm

o sweet yea it looked pretty useless to me ay barely ne angle at all to create down force.

i just rang up mag and turbo wharehouse about fitting a chrom pipe with a filter and they said $230-$250. ne 1 else care to post what it cost them at a shop or what it should cost.......

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Postby kingcorolla » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:26 pm

hahha, chrome adds 15hp.

for $250, it must be that 'super-bling' chrome which is a must with 'performance' mods.
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Postby alastabesta » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:57 pm

measure it up and get it custom made prob cost $200 with aluminium everything, filter and a cold airbox too altho u'll need to relocate ur battery to the boot for i duno how much extra

and chuck some exhaust wrap on too while ur at it :wink:
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Postby smokabitabud » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:08 pm

ok so ur saying aluminium is just as good as chrome??????
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Postby alastabesta » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:15 pm

i have no idea how good chrome works - just pointing out the differences in price. nothing was implied :)

that was the setup on brother's ae101 gtz altho i'm not sure how much faster it is after the intake system's been installed as I hardly ever drive that car
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Postby Dr-X » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:16 pm

All you need is some piping to get from A to B. I would use aluminium because it doesnt look so bling.
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Postby smokabitabud » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:19 pm

o ok sweet as, remember all ive ever done with cars is on my m8s ke70 with a 3k in. when it comes to these japas with about 1mm to spare either side of everything i dont know how to do shit.............

so can u explain exactly the best way to do the cold air box?? eg size, do i want a pipe running from the cold air box to the front of the car so the air gets pushed in, where exactly to put it and ne thing else u think would be useful for me to know

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o and wots the best type of filter to get, ive got 1 of those foam ones that ive seen alot of people with wrx's use but i dunno if its ne good neva used it
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Postby EssDub » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:06 pm

smokabitabud wrote:when it comes to these japas with about 1mm to spare either side of everything............


:lol: :lol: :lol: SOooo True! LMAO :roll:
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Postby BZ-G » Mon May 16, 2005 3:57 pm

Hey mate..

Go to page 8 of my homepage... there's some good advice for you...

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/827405/8

If you got more questions... let me know... I am specialised in serious motor sport on AE111 not street use...
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Postby RomanV » Mon May 16, 2005 4:16 pm

alastabesta wrote:alot of the guys here drives ae111 and they will know more than me - i'm more into cosmetic mods rather than performance at the moment. 8)

to my knowledge spoilers provides a downforce which makes ur vehicle stable therefore at low speed there basically isn't enough "force" to be pressed down and that's what I meant by "useless" within legal limit.


There is a distinct difference between a SPOILER and a WING.

A wing is designed to create downforce, to stick the car to the road.

However, A spoiler is placed to disrupt the flow of air over the car. (It spoils the air flow :roll: )
The turbulent air behind the car creates drag, which you car has to work against when travelling at speed. A spoiler is added to disrupt the flow of air behind the vehicle, to minimise the turbulence.
So a 'spoiler' isnt intended to increase downforce at all. Removing a spoiler will theoretically reduce your top speed, and increase your gas consumption. :)
However, some may be just for aesthetics. So YMMV. :)

EDIT: Actually this link explains it, perhaps a little better than I can. :)
http://www.gmecca.com/byorc/dtipsaerodynamics.html
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Postby Lanius » Mon May 16, 2005 5:49 pm

smokabitabud wrote:ok so ur saying aluminium is just as good as chrome??????


Everything you do to your car depends on what you're after ... "show" or "go". If you want the car to be "bling" then go for chrome and lights and everything you need to get the attention you're after. You have to be prepared to pay for it though.

If you're after a car that performs well and just looks decent without being over the top, then save your money, and get whatever you need to do the job instead of the "bling" stuff. An aluminium piece of pipe will do exactly the same job as a chrome piece. At the end of the day, the only people who look under the bonnet are you and your mechanic.

Just be aware that you're never going to get the kind of performance out of a 1600 NA as you will out of a 2 litre turbo, so if you're after some real power, rather leave your car stock and save for something that came out from factory with more power. Those cars tend to have stronger parts (suspension, brakes, engines etc) than their more economical brethren, and are far easier to tweak for better results.

Having said all of that, BZ-G does have a pretty good site linked above, and he's on the right track with regards to modifying a car (brakes and suspension etc as well as more power), so it would be a good place to get some ideas.
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Postby BZ-G » Mon May 16, 2005 6:26 pm

Lanius wrote:Having said all of that, BZ-G does have a pretty good site linked above, and he's on the right track with regards to modifying a car (brakes and suspension etc as well as more power), so it would be a good place to get some ideas.


Thanks for your recommendation of my site...
I tend to recommend safety first… then speed…
And with my experience, I spend my money wisely on things that work and not for show… Like for example. The TRD rear spoiler does really work… It’s been tested in the wind tunnel, which at 6 degrees produces 25kg of down force at 100km/h (I think, I don’t have my TRD catalog at work). So at high speeds it will be more stable and have better control at high speed corners, since the down force at the back is holding the tires on the road which has more traction than no rear wing or spoiler.
Mind you there a replicas, this may not have the same effect like the real McCoy.
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Postby CozmoNz » Mon May 16, 2005 7:01 pm

bolt a snail to it :). ze pistons, silvertop / ze rods.

whamo, lots of power.

and you could be sucking air in from the exhaust piping itself, with a snail youll still be making more power than stock X_X
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Postby Lanius » Mon May 16, 2005 8:34 pm

CozmoNz wrote:sucking air in from the exhaust piping itself


since when does a turbo suck air from the exhaust? :?
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