I need more bloody help - Im a tard-o

[B ROWDY]

Hmm, just cos I have special needs can someone tell me what I would need to do to my car to change from drums in the rear to discs all round, good ones, I is a bad braker, and maybe how much and who to go to in Chch

[wde_bdy]

You would get far more benefit from a set of decent pads and maybe some slotted rotors for the front. I would recommend Mintex pads from Race Brakes, they are even a Toyspeed sponsor I think.

Callum

[solberg Fan]

, ...just cos I have special needs...

We all have "special needs" in our own little way,...... or is that just me? *looks around in desparation*
But on the serious side, im gessing thats your car in your sig? Its not realy worth spending money on it as your rear wheels hardly do any of the braking (as it should be). Its more likly that your front brakes are doing %80 of the work. So spend some money on them would be my advice, better to lock your front tyres up that your rears.
Cost? no idea sorry.

[B ROWDY]

, ...just cos I have special needs...

We all have "special needs" in our own little way,...... or is that just me? *looks around in desparation*
But on the serious side, im gessing thats your car in your sig? Its not realy worth spending money on it as your rear wheels hardly do any of the braking (as it should be). Its more likly that your front brakes are doing %80 of the work. So spend some money on them would be my advice, better to lock your front tyres up that your rears.
Cost? no idea sorry.

hmmm, so being a fwd makes a difference? I just wanted them to look good and drums look pies!

[solberg Fan]

Fwd just means its heavier at the front, so more braking force is needed on the front axel (and less on the back). Yep discs do look better, but im afraid your stuck with drums! Just like me.....
Unless your realy want discs... and have a big wallet

[Voodoo]

whether front drive or rear, fronts do most of the work, but yeah, u could try talking to Race Brakes, ive delt through them and they have been very helpful

[Mr Revhead]

dont tailgate



try looking at starlet gt rear brakes..... you will need to new proportioning valve too

[B ROWDY]

dont tailgate



try looking at starlet gt rear brakes..... you will need to new proportioning valve too

oh one of those?


Tailgate, me never!

[Elmo]

Anything is posible, for the right $$$$ Im converting my 4 wheel DRUMS to 4 wheel disc brakes at some stage, and that will require making everything except calipers and rotors.

[KinLoud]

Disk rears for looks is all good.
I'm pretty sure that some Cynos come out with disk rear brakes.
Find one, get the rear hubs, disks, calipers, hand brake cables etc. and rear brake bias valve (found somewhere near the brake master in line with the brake lines going to the back brakes).
If you can't find a Cynos, get the parts out of a Starlet as the cars are pretty much the same running gear.

Ken
Hamilton
021 408 863

[B ROWDY]

Cool, sounds like a wee project Ill have to fully investigate before I do my usual get in there, rip it apart, lose bits, forget what I was doing, go inside to eat some chocolate, use feeble attempts to suck up to GeT RoToR'D for help, start to whinge, bribe GeT RoToR'D with left over chocolate for help, attempt to do it myself, whinge about the "useless tools", drop stuff, start to get cold, get distracted by GeT RoToR'D, attempt to help, end up bashing heads, eat more chocolate to fix bashed head, oh it goes on, lol!!!!!!

[Ebola_One]

Fwd just means its heavier at the front, so more braking force is needed on the front axel (and less on the back). Yep discs do look better, but im afraid your stuck with drums! Just like me.....
Unless your realy want discs... and have a big wallet

That's crap...
wether a car is FWD or RWD it's still have a dirty great heap of metal between the front struts. Obviously a MR car (MR2, Lotus Elise, etc) are different as the engine is behind the passenger compartment.

I'd try & get measure ments from a Cynos disk setup & see if they will suit the Sera rear arms.

If it's anything like a Honda swap, you'll probaby be looking for rear trailing arms too (or at least new hubs) but you'll probably find that if the Sera & Cynos have the same Chassis code (this doesn't always apply though) you might get away with an easy conversion.

You may need to do some converting for the hand brake cable too. (I don't know if drum brakes are hooked up to yuor handbrake cable, but I'd imagine it's different to disk/caliper setups).

If you do manage to do it, make sure you post up results so other people can see what's needed to make it happen.

Good luck.

[Malcolm]

Fwd just means its heavier at the front, so more braking force is needed on the front axel (and less on the back). Yep discs do look better, but im afraid your stuck with drums! Just like me.....
Unless your realy want discs... and have a big wallet

That's crap...
wether a car is FWD or RWD it's still have a dirty great heap of metal between the front struts. Obviously a MR car (MR2, Lotus Elise, etc) are different as the engine is behind the passenger compartment.

Believe it or not you don't need to move an engine back a metre or two to change the weight balance of a car
most rwd cars have the the middle of the engine (ie #2 & 3 cylinders in a 4cyl) around the position of the front wheels. This means there's half an engine, a gearbox, a diff, a driveshaft, and halfshafts all hanging behind the front wheels, forcing weight down on the rear
most fwd cars have the entire engine forward of the front wheels, along with 2/3rds of the gearbox, and no extra parts hanging behind the front wheels to counteract this weight. SO, the vast majority of fwd cars have a more front biased weight distribution than the vast majority of rwd cars.

Jeez.

[RedMist]

Its nothing to do with the weight split of a static car. Its weight transfer during braking. Your front brakes always do by far a majory of the braking as such rear drums arent that bad.
Hence the need for a proportioning valve, or some way to bias the rear brakes. The Bunderson is soo titchy I adjust brake bias going up or down hills.
Have you thought about certing? I think you'll need one considering your messing with your stopping power.
Hand brake? Most are cable driven onto the drum, if you replace it you'll need hydrolic onto a second caliper or a similar dedicated handbrake system.

[Mr Revhead]

seras are oddballm, while they share engiens and some mechanicals with corolla 2s and cynos etc, they are quite different.

it may be possible to swap the rear brakes, including the handbrake system, but it may turn out to be a bitch... your gunna have to do some crawling round a wreckers yard

[B ROWDY]

oh crikey, and I thought it would be easy! bah humbug!