TRD Head gasket re-usable????

[crispy'86]

I put the trd head gasket on my 4age when i built one up using 20v block etc. I didn't clean the threads out in the block and the head bolts weren't properly torqued. Incidentally the head gasket didn't seal in 3 out of the 4 cylinders on the block. Can i still get away with using this or will i have to get a new one with the combustion temperatures playing havoc with the gasket itself. It looks ok, no blows that i can see, just slight discolouration around the piston sealing area. Saying that i mean it's not really dark blue but no obvious sign of being blown. Can i stil use it or buy a new one??

[snwtoy]

Buy a new one, it's not worth the time to have to replace it again if it fails.

[evil_si]

head gaskets arnt a reusable item.
replace it

[vvega]

trd head gaskets are reuseable..but if it damaged ...
v

[crispy'86]

yeah i know the trd gaskets are re-usable. but i'm thinking of buying a new one to save the hassle of re-fitting the head

[NZ_AE86]

Yeah, they are reuseable but as 'V' said if it is damaged....

Better safe then sorry with a new one.

[TRD Man]

Crispy, whilst many do re-use their TRD head gaskets we do not recommend it.
We keep a good stock of them here & they're not expensive.

cheers
Bruce

[crispy'86]

[quote="TRD Man"]Crispy, whilst many do re-use their TRD head gaskets we do not recommend it.
We keep a good stock of them here & they're not expensive.

my thought exactly

[vvega]

Crispy, whilst many do re-use their TRD head gaskets we do not recommend it.
We keep a good stock of them here & they're not expensive.

cheers
Bruce

didnt think you could contradict trd do you have no faith in there product or what they have developed it for ??...interesting

they are expensive when compared to a genuine.. in fact double the price so unless you attually want to increase your c/r without planing your head.. what use are they ???

just sounds like your tring to sell some stock
and from my understanding bussness are not allowed to sell on hereon

the otherhand
'toyspeeds sponsor Mr Revhead can do you a great deal'
and he likes to make sure hes the best value for money




v

[crispy'86]

For the mean time and to play it safe i'll buy a new one, not worth the hassle to do it over again, and the head bolts are torque to yield bolts, use them once and replace when you fit new gasket,. Do we all agree with this??

[vvega]

do you need a trd head gasket ??
the bolts you can measure and still if in tolerance you can reuse them
but yeah
the techinally correct way to fix your problem is
check the head isnt warped
check its not cracked
new head bolts
new gasket

make sure alll your threeds are clean not damaged
make sure you oil the threeds of your new bolts this will ensure a even streech

use the correct ## nM + 90 +90 method for the bolts


make sure you clean under the washers the washers them selves

anyways
you have the right idea for the do it once do it right way

do you need a trd head gasket ??

v

[TRD Man]

just sounds like your tring to sell some stock

Actually vvega, I'm just offering a snippet of advice as a fellow member and long time competitor.

The price of a new gasket is minimal when you weigh it up against the cost of travelling to an event, paying the entry fee, accommodation etc, etc... only to have a failure and not get a result.

AS for who offers the best value for money. Well, we've done that consistantly for the past 10 years. But we won't start that argument again.

[Adamal]

Vvega, stop causing unnessacery shit

[vvega]

just sounds like your tring to sell some stock

Actually vvega, I'm just offering a snippet of advice as a fellow member and long time competitor.

The price of a new gasket is minimal when you weigh it up against the cost of travelling to an event, paying the entry fee, accommodation etc, etc... only to have a failure and not get a result.

AS for who offers the best value for money. Well, we've done that consistantly for the past 10 years. But we won't start that argument again.

lol
i said compared to a normal toyota gasket they are expensive not saying dont replace it...so in attual fact i agree with what you have said.
\my question was why dose he need a trd headgasket

dont put words in my mouth partically when there false and defamitory

trd gaskets are designed so that you can if you wish take your head off and check everthing witout the need to replace it. not to blow a head gasket and the tri to use it again
but you should know that ...well thats what trd says

and as for best value
from personal experance id have to say thats incorrect
tnz have always looked after me with prices and on many occasions undercut you by quite a margin

so to correct your statment you have done it on ocasion but to be consistancely you would have to have done it for me and i have bought about 2-3000 dollars worth of trd items in that last year for myself and on behalf of others so to me your statement dosent qualify

sorry mate but that had to be said to make the point and to correct your statement.its not ment be offensive but i support those that have supported me in this case its tnz
v

[TRD Man]

Crispy, I hope you've found the information you were after. I think those who offered constructive comment gave you what you were looking for.

vvega, why it is that you've chosen to hijack a members thread about headgaskets to attack me I'll never understand.

Some of your posts appear to indicate a reasonable knowledge of engine craft and contain some useful & reasonably accurate information.
Sadly, you let yourself down when to utter the type of drivel that can be seen in your posts under this topic.

Since singlehandedly bringing the TRD range of products to New Zealand at an affordable price 10 years ago, we've consistently offered the best value. Yes we get undercut on occasions. But not often.
Thankfully, Toyspeed does have members who have a memory and are appreciative of our efforts and remain loyal. In return we reward them with the best deal we can offer.
The fact that you may not be offered these deals is likely more to do with your own brand of loyalty, not ours.

Your signature states that you're an angry old man. I doubt that's true, but if it were so you'd remember the days when TNZ had TRD to themselves. LSD's were $3000, gaskets were $300, valve springs were $130 each.
Now they're competitive with us, and that's great. As long as there's 2 of us.
But you can sleep easy vvega. Our loyal customer base in NZ together with our extensive overseas trade will not only keep us going but maintain our status as one of the world's busiest TRD agents, meaning you'll always be able to buy TRD products at an affordable price. And despite the fact you've never been loyal, at all.

[vvega]

funny really i am far from old
i have a trade in engine building and motorcycles/restoration/aviation
like you i have raced... for about 7 years in total
and yes i remeber when times were very different

and in the real world you earn loyaly you dont expect it
maybe this is something you have forgotten,or maybe you just dont care
so what have we gathered from this

your competative not consistant
you back your produxt with first hand knowlage.....
and its your way or the highway

i now see why some peole think the sun shines from your arse
whle many wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire

just remeber you created the need for anther trd outlet because of your attatude toward people (or so i have been informed)
so you only have yourself to blame for tnz's new trd stratagies

as for why .. im just bored
v

[crispy'86]

Yeah thanks for clogging my post!!! I've re-used the trd gasket from my 4age i had n my ae86, i used it to build up my engine originally, I just thought i'd take the risk and bolt up not thinking i'd have any trouble, i was in a hurry to get it together in car and runnning. So i don't mind doing this. I took a shortcut and paid for it. And vvega yes i Do know the proper way to do it, it was like 5 in the morning when i put the engine together on the workshop floor so that may say it all. And the head bolts came out of another overheated 4age, so go figure!! Yes i know i took a couple of shortcuts and paid for it. Just lucky i didn't use it on my race engine for the fxgt. U could say i've learnt not to take short cuts now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vvega]

shortcuts are fine
but you seemed to have used a few more than you rprolly should have on onw engine
i know its a silly superstiition
but i dont use anything from a dead engine in a new one... evertime i have its had issues
typicvally overheating ya head bolts changes the "hardness"of the bolts so you may find you didnt get the requied clamping pressure from them..

just my thoughts

v

[crispy'86]

yep i have taken 2 shortcuts too many, probably to be tight with my money, well i know what not to do now. Really shouldn't have done it in the first place

[Mr Revhead]

*sniff sniff* hmm theres been bulls here.....



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