3s transmission bolted to a 1uz?

[ben]

I read that vvega is going to build a coupler to mount the mr2 turbo gearbox to a 1uz. I don't know much about transmissions - how is that possible and how hard is it? :/

And - who could I talk to about doing a 1u conversion into a sw20 for me?

[RomanV]

Although it may be possible to do, remember that it is costing Vvega $5000+, and thats doing all of the work himself!
I am sure there has been a butt load of labour involved too.
So to hire someone clever enough to be able to do it, this project would cost megabucks IMO.

[NZ_AE86]

I put a 1UZ into a 2000 model hilux which is a much easier job then into an SW20! It worked out to be close to 150hrs of Labour. That works out to be over $7000 just in labour! But if your still keen there are a few people who could do it for you. Andre at Speedtech would be one.

[ben]

150hrs.

[Adamal]

I've heard that mounting rails are much narrower in the SW20 than the AW11 as well, making it difficult to get the sucker in there!

[ben]

What are these mounting rails? The chassis rails at the bottom of the engine bay? Someone should bust out a tape measure and get some numbers.

[RomanV]

I do believe 'All fours' has an engineless SW20 that he is wrecking?

[ben]

I do believe 'All fours' has an engineless SW20 that he is wrecking?

Any chance this car is down wgtn ways?

Vvega said the frame rails (and bay walls) needs to be >700mm - someone want to bust out some measuring tape?

[Malcolm]

770mm so the engine should fit in there alright
there is a huge amount of custom work involved in a swap like this, it's not like a 1UZ into a ute swap mentioned earlier, where you're mostly mounting the engine, plumbing + wiring it up. There needs to be custom work done to the engine (wayne is taking heaps off the cambelt end to shorten it), the bellhousing adapter has to be made, if the gearbox no longer sits in the same spot (left-right) then custom halfshafts would need to be made. I would budget for atleast 300hours labour (if a simple swap into a rwd ute takes 150).
Why do you want to anyway? Is your sw20 turbo? If it is then there wont be a huge increase in power stock for stock, so it seems a lot of work and money if you just want to be different.

[ben]

It's just something I've dreamed of for ages, but didn't research properly because I didn't realise it was possible to bolt an e158 up to the 1uz. Of course everything is possible - but wayne is making it look kinda easy.

I don't have an sw20 atm - used to have a gt. And if people didn't pay money to be different - lamborghini would go out of business. If anyone in wgtn would be interested in helping me look into a sw20 conversion (I don't have a garage or any powertools atm) - lemme know.

[Malcolm]

lamborghini's aren't about being different. It's hardly just a Camry with different styling or something is it? Most people that own Lambo's would claim that it was about the performance, looks etc (although it's more likely because they're rich wankers and want to show off)

Anyway, the engine wont simply bolt to the e153, wayne is trying to find an auto bellhousing from a 1UZ to cut the mating flange off and weld to a E153 bellhousing, afaik.

If you're paying someone to do the swap, and they are anywhere near competent, you'd probably be looking at atleast $15K I would guess, IMHO quite a lot for 50hp over a stock sw20 turbo.

[RomanV]

Heres a rough estimate of what I think it would cost.

1uz = $1500 + $4500 MR2 = $6000 1uz powered MR2!!!!#$!!



Nah but seriously:

$4500
3sgte powered mr2.

-$1000
engine, loom etc. that you can sell

$1500.
1uz motor

$2000.
link computer + tuning + install

$400
misc engine bits, spark plugs, engine oil, gbox oil, etc. etc.

$300
1uz gbox bell housing, if you can get one on its own.

$600+
certification

$500
3sgte clutch, 1uz flywheel

$100
Machine & balance dodgy second hand flywheel

$1000
new exhaust fabricated.

$200
new intake setup. filter, piping etc.

getting someone to hack apart, and weld together accurately your 1uz bell housing and 3sgte gbox.
= $300.

getting engine mounts fabbed = $400.

$1000
Misc costs... things that you didnt think about. (Yes, there is always something! Bound to be plenty on a project like this!)


So... dare I even add this up? So far its... just under $12000. And thats not really including labour.

I mean im sure you could do a few of those things for cheaper than my estimates, but Im also sure there are plenty of things that I have forgotten too.

[ben]

well once i've sorted out another contract (anyone need a ninja ajax/rails developer?) we'll see how much. My starting point:

$3000 na mr2
$1200 1u incl box & loom & ecu

[NZ_AE86]

Heres a rough estimate of what I think it would cost.

1uz = $1500 + $4500 MR2 = $6000 1uz powered MR2!!!!#$!!



Nah but seriously:

$4500
3sgte powered mr2.

-$1000
engine, loom etc. that you can sell

$1500.
1uz motor

$2000.
link computer + tuning + install

$400
misc engine bits, spark plugs, engine oil, gbox oil, etc. etc.

$300
1uz gbox bell housing, if you can get one on its own.

$600+
certification

$500
3sgte clutch, 1uz flywheel

$100
Machine & balance dodgy second hand flywheel

$1000
new exhaust fabricated.

$200
new intake setup. filter, piping etc.

getting someone to hack apart, and weld together accurately your 1uz bell housing and 3sgte gbox.
= $300.

getting engine mounts fabbed = $400.

$1000
Misc costs... things that you didnt think about. (Yes, there is always something! Bound to be plenty on a project like this!)


So... dare I even add this up? So far its... just under $12000. And thats not really including labour.

I mean im sure you could do a few of those things for cheaper than my estimates, but Im also sure there are plenty of things that I have forgotten too.

Sounds good but why a link?

[ee904age]

Sounds good but why a link?

I think the have trouble getting the factory ecu running a M/T. Also there would be a sh*tload of unneeded parts that the factory ecu needs info from. (sensors etc)

[vvega]

let me finish it first
the gearbox is here and im gunna make a adapter plate rather than cut flanges off.....my problen with this is the housing warping while welding ...and been a sealing part
thats all bad :S

v

[vvega]

oh and you would want the turbo model to start with......

v

[NZ_AE86]

Sounds good but why a link?

I think the have trouble getting the factory ecu running a M/T. Also there would be a sh*tload of unneeded parts that the factory ecu needs info from. (sensors etc)

In my experience there is no trouble getting them to run on a factory ECU with a M/T.

You should only go the Link way if you are going to modify the engine. But when you can get an egine , loom and ecu for 1500 or less why bother spending another 1000 plus install plus tuning for a link?

[vvega]

or maybe when you rip all the dizzys off and soforth to shorten the motor it might bevome nessacry

[NZ_AE86]

Very true Vvega! or you could make a feature of them poking out of the gaurd!