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Postby vvtlevin » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:45 pm

Is tuning a AE111 Levin BZ-R worth it?

and also, what would be beter? geting a TRD sports filter or a pod?, because from what i can c a TRD filter will fit nicly in the black filter box and a pod will not witch will make it more difficuit.
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 3:41 pm

I would say the levin wouldnt be worth modify the engine as you cant really get hudge gains but if i was you I would work on the exterier and interior a little get it looking sharp :D 8)
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:14 pm

If I was you a turbo would be the go as it would probily be the only way to get hudge gains but on a bzr is costly and im talking from experianse :P
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Postby stevo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:18 pm

the trd filter would be better if u dont want to mess around and make a cold air box.
and to get more power tune the exhuast heres quite a bit of power to be made here get some
-4 -1 extracter and a full 1 1/4 mandril bends exhuast
-then get some nice cams and an adjustable fuel pressure regulter and get the fuel mixture set
get some good spark plugs then u shud be side by side with tyre r tegs
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Postby vvtlevin » Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:31 pm

Thanks bro il look into that
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:28 pm

I hate to be the one to tell you this bro but my bzr has a turbo and nearly every aspect of my bzr is modifyed and I raced my mates factory Type r teg at meremere and to tell you the truth I got whip like seriously whiped if I was you I would am to get it half as fast as a type r unless u wanna spend 20-50k doing up your car like I have and still I was dissapointed :cry:

Just thought Id get that clear
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Postby Alex B » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:31 pm

stevo wrote:the trd filter would be better if u dont want to mess around and make a cold air box.
and to get more power tune the exhuast heres quite a bit of power to be made here get some
-4 -1 extracter and a full 1 1/4 mandril bends exhuast
-then get some nice cams and an adjustable fuel pressure regulter and get the fuel mixture set
get some good spark plugs then u shud be side by side with tyre r tegs


4-1 is crap keep it 4-2-1.
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Postby 1598cc » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:33 pm

pyro_sniper2002 wrote:
stevo wrote:the trd filter would be better if u dont want to mess around and make a cold air box.
and to get more power tune the exhuast heres quite a bit of power to be made here get some
-4 -1 extracter and a full 1 1/4 mandril bends exhuast
-then get some nice cams and an adjustable fuel pressure regulter and get the fuel mixture set
get some good spark plugs then u shud be side by side with tyre r tegs


4-1 is crap keep it 4-2-1.


why.?. 4-1 is better for higher rpm which is what you need on these engines.
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Postby vvtlevin » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:35 pm

im half as fast as a type r teg as i am
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:36 pm

yeah they do need 4-1 as low revs let them down and it makes a big difference with 4-1
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:43 pm

It was an example I ment like get the diff between ur quarter mile times like to see it 8)
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Postby AJz » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:43 pm

stevo wrote:the trd filter would be better if u dont want to mess around and make a cold air box.
and to get more power tune the exhuast heres quite a bit of power to be made here get some
-4 -1 extracter and a full 1 1/4 mandril bends exhuast
-then get some nice cams and an adjustable fuel pressure regulter and get the fuel mixture set
get some good spark plugs then u shud be side by side with tyre r tegs


what on earth are you on about with the exhaust :roll:

if you do the exhaust....

Keep the stock extractors as they are pretty decent.

2 1/4 piping, (im guessin u made typo :P )

Also, for what purposes are you "tuning" it for, street use? track? drag? :P
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Postby vvtlevin » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:11 pm

street use mainly
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Postby Loudtoy » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:23 pm

vvtlevin wrote:street use mainly


So whats wrong with factory for street, thats what a factory car is for isn't it. You only want more power for one thing, track or strip otherwise all you do is use more fuel to get to the speed limit faster and doing so could result in a fine anyhow sux but you can get fined for anything.
You should be able to get down the 1/4 with a high-mid 14 without to much messing around, a decent cold air intake and exhaust and a little weight loss before you head down there and there's your high-mid 14. If you want to get a computer and some cam's done then you should be able to look at going even faster like a mid-low 14 on the strip.
Type r teg's are standard around high-mid 14, with an intake, exhaust and a little messing with suspension they get down to a low 14.

bzr_turbo wrote: hate to be the one to tell you this bro but my bzr has a turbo and nearly every aspect of my bzr is modifyed and I raced my mates factory Type r teg at meremere and to tell you the truth I got whip like seriously whiped

Dude what has your mates type r got, a turbo as well?? You should be able to be at least on a level pegging with him in a straight 1/4 drag if your turbo setup is half decent???
I know a couple of people with almost standard ie exhaust and intake bzr's that have pulled mid 14's on a g-tec so should be good for a high 14 on the strip, with a decent turbo setup and tuned you should be doing a high 13. They are a light car after all!
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Postby Ae92typeX » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:25 pm

Also, what sort of money are you looking at spending?- no point having people say do this do that, if its out of your budget.
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Postby AJz » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:33 pm

Probably look at a system around the following

- stock headers
- 2 1/4 right through
- 2 large resonators (around 18inch) so its not so raspy.
- Your choice of muffler, a if you want loud a fart can is goin to be the loudest, but will most likely be the most tinny at high RPM.

Completely up to you as its your car and you will be listening to it.

Its prob best to go talk to a local muffler/exhaust shop and talk to them as the range of what they have is usually quite large
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Postby Lev1n » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:16 pm

I no the guy that posted this topic belive me he wont do any thing you are saying to him his bzr will stay stock forever save your advice for someone that will use it
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:27 pm

I didnt mean like 10 second difference I was meaning like 1 sec witch is alot to me :oops:

Sorry bout the confusion guys
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Postby Adamal » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:39 pm

bzr_turbo, What kind of setup are you running? I'm still quite suprised that a Type R would beat you in a 1/4 mile.
Motorsport is like sex. You could take it to track and have a long, enjoyable session, or you could take it to the strip and get it over with in less than 20 seconds.
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Postby bzr_turbo » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:43 pm

Most of car with TRD setup and evo 2 turbo
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