supercharger

[trdfxgt]

hey iv been asking a bit about turbo charging my ae 82 but it is a race car and im thinking now of a supercharger can i just get a supercharger+manifold and computer and bolt them onto a blue or red top ??

[pidge]

Not quite - you've got to move the Alternator, piping for intercooler, change your pistons for lower compression ones (I think!) blah.
Oh, and injectors, and ECU.

Probably easier to get a GTZ Engine + loom, and swap that in. The throttle body inlet pipe will need turning around though, which might be as simple as unbolting it, turn 180 degrees, bolt on.

[trdfxgt]

oh ok if i can turbo it on factory pistons why would it need low comp ones for a supercharger ?? and yea i know i need piping thats easy and i have an evo 4 intercooler

[Dragger_Dan]

PM vvega about this, I know he did it, fairly successfully too, I think.

[aesc]

And ask Mr Revhead, his AW11 is a redtop that has been supercharged

[pidge]

oh ok if i can turbo it on factory pistons why would it need low comp ones for a supercharger ?? and yea i know i need piping thats easy and i have an evo 4 intercooler

I wasn't certain on the CR for blue & red top, that's all.

[Mr Revhead]

you can get the s/c gear off a 4agze (manifolds etc etc)
and bolt them to the blue or redtop (wouldnt use a small port)
wire in the 4agze ecu and away you go.

use a w2a intercooler and the best fuel you can.
youll have to think about the ignition. the ze euc expects to find a kknock sensor. but theres no provision for a kknock sensor in a n/a 4age

[4ageman]

ill have to correct you mr revhead. I belive the smallport has a knock senser.

[Mr Revhead]

yes you are quite correct there!
makes it easier.....

[XS1V]

Allthough on the smallport block the knock sensor is in the wrong place and doesnt fit between block and supercharger. And there isnt another whole drilled for it where it goes on the gze :S

[Mr Revhead]

oh dear.

well you dont NEED knock sensor. i dont run one.
yes its costing me power, i reckon with some timing tweaks you can minimise the loss

[XS1V]

Thats rather coincidental how i had replyed to your post just before you rang marc lol

Mr revhead, im going to run without a knock sensor as well, just alot easier than risking drilling a new whole and risking puncturing the water jacket.

Marc, heres the parts that i have gone with:
Smallport block and crank
AE101 GZE rods
AE101 Charger and manifolds
Factory intercooler
AE101 loom and computer
GZE Crank Pulley
GZE Alternator/A-C/Powersteering Bracket
GZE injectors
Crank angle sensor
DLI Coil pack
GZE fuel pump
GZE flywheel
GZE Starter
GZE Alternator

As well as brand new parts:
GZE pistons
Big end bearings
Main bearings
Full gasket set
Water pump
Belts and tensioners
Charger Oil
Clutch/ Pressure plate/ Thrust bearing
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Rod Bolts

As well as all your other normal rebuild stuff

Hope this helps, you probably wont need all of this if your not rebuilding

[trdfxgt]

thanks for that a couple of questions why do i need the starter,flywheel,and feul pump ??

[XS1V]

You probably dont need the starter.

The flywheels are tottaly different to take the bigger pressure plate and clutch.

The fuel pump is higher flowing to match the injectors

[trdfxgt]

ok so is there a reason why my flywheel wont work ??? as i am still using my gearbox

[XS1V]

You can use your flywheel, you just wont be able to use gze p/plate or clutches, so with standard 4age clutch it wont handle the torque. you could always use an uprated 4age p/plate and clutch i guess.

[trdfxgt]

yea i allready do have a race clutch and a trd lsd

[XS1V]

Sweet as