Non Turbo MR2 stock hp or kw

[UZZ30]

Whats the stock hp or kw of the mr2 from 1989-92?

The 93+ NA model has a gain of about 15hp i read.. is this true?

[IH8TEC]

little announcement at the top of the page

[AJz]

stock HP or factory quoted is as follows

Gen 1 & 2 > 165hp Gen2 3SGE
Gen 3 & 4 > 180hp Gen3 3SGE
Gen 5 > 200hp Blacktop 3SGE POWA!!!!!

someone correct me if im wrong.

course these are power at factory, not after 150,000 k's of thrashing

[UZZ30]

most other sorces ive read have those figures you said

[RomanV]

stock HP or factory quoted is as follows

Gen 1 & 2 > 165hp Gen2 3SGE
Gen 3 & 4 > 180hp Gen3 3SGE
Gen 5 > 200hp Blacktop 3SGE POWA!!!!!

someone correct me if im wrong.

course these are power at factory, not after 150,000 k's of thrashing

wrong.
wrong.
wrong.



Gen 1 motor makes 130hp or so IIRC. (they come in late 80s celicas & coronas etc... not worth bothering with. )

gen 2 = 165 as stated (this is the 89-92 MR2 engine)

gen 3 = 180hp. (93 onwards engine)

gen 4 makes 190hp(auto) or 200hp(manual) (1998 onwards engine)

and a gen 5 makes 200hp(auto) and 210hp(manual). (1998 onwards engine)

gen 4 motor is available in GT caldinas, and 98-99 celicas and MR2s.

Blacktop motor is available in Altezza only.

Have a nice day.

[UZZ30]

Looking into buying an na mr2 so i guess the best NA model to go for is the 3rd Gen model 1993+ Plus it has the re-designed rear lights, spoiler etc.

Theres not to many around however

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/list ... &x=73&y=19

only 3 on trade me...

[RomanV]

Yes, but the face lift ones are so much cooler.

And you get a 15hp headstart on the pre 93 ones.

But in saying that, 1st gen SW20s are rediculously cheap at the moment, could probably pick up a nice one for 3 grand.

But in the long run, a gen 3 is the best option.
It will hold its value far better too, as the market is flooded with early model SW20s. Hence the cheap prices, they are very hard to sell.

[Mr.Phreak]

Selling the Soarer??

[CozmoNz]

stock HP or factory quoted is as follows

Gen 1 & 2 > 165hp Gen2 3SGE
Gen 3 & 4 > 180hp Gen3 3SGE
Gen 5 > 200hp Blacktop 3SGE POWA!!!!!

someone correct me if im wrong.

course these are power at factory, not after 150,000 k's of thrashing

wrong.
wrong.
wrong.



Gen 1 motor makes 130hp or so IIRC. (they come in late 80s celicas & coronas etc... not worth bothering with. )

gen 2 = 165 as stated (this is the 89-92 MR2 engine)

gen 3 = 180hp. (93 onwards engine)

gen 4 makes 190hp(auto) or 200hp(manual) (1998 onwards engine)

and a gen 5 makes 200hp(auto) and 210hp(manual). (1998 onwards engine)

gen 4 motor is available in GT caldinas, and 98-99 celicas and MR2s.

Blacktop motor is available in Altezza only.

Have a nice day.

i thought the gen 3 n/a and 4 = same engine,

gen 5 = 200hp vvti engine

210hp 3sge = dohc vvti engine, (tezza only)

best bet, buy the highest spec model you can, later on down the track people dont want bottom of the barrel bits (occasionaly you get someone, but compared to the amount of people who will want leather, high spec everything) its quite silly .

*cough* go turbo *cough*

[RomanV]

Not quite.
You're getting confused between MR2 generations, and 3sge generations.

The gen 5 SW20 has the gen 4 3sge.

Gen 3 and 4 SW20s have the gen 3 3sge.

gen 1 and 2 SW20s have the gen 2 3sge.

[UZZ30]

Selling the Soarer??

yes i already have sadly. It was a fantastic car, best ive had. But it got kind of annoying as it was so unecconomical especially as i have a heavy foot but i predicted it would consume the gas quick! and plus no performance mods were able to be done as it had a special warranty that covers mechanical faults for just under 2 years. I could have void the warranty and put a full exhaust on but it would have been rather silly as new the warranty costs about 5k to put on. It was put on a few years ago by the 1st NZ owner... Didnt really think about this when i bought it!

So i might look for an MR2 or a 3.0gt soarer as a replacement, both really different cars to chose from ones mainly sporty and ones luxury..

The problem is the 3.0GT soarers are quite rare and a bit expensive, how ever the MR2 is pretty cheap and eazy to find, But the common ones are the 89-91 models with 165hp...
The 1993 model appears to be the best choice as its 180hp and is the face lift model. All ways wanted an mr2 kind of a fun little zippy car and MR!... very different car from the soarer!

What do you guys recomend as a replacement? mr2 3 gen or 3.0gt soarer

Mr2 is about 1200kg with 135kw and 191nm of torque

soarer is about 1480kg with 165kw and 290nm of torque

[RomanV]

depends on what kind of driving you do.

If (like me) you drive a lot of twisty back roads, then MR2 for sure.

If you do lots of cruising on the motorways etc, then perhaps a soarer would be a better option.

fun car vs. luxury car really.

Theyre both good, just for different purposes.

[UZZ30]

yeah thats true, well said

My soarer was a great cruising car pretty quick but rather lazy around windy roads... especially in the wet . To be expected as it is heavy and fitted with soft suspension.

i guess the 3 litre will be no different just a bit slower, however its lighter than the v8 is so may handle slighty better

I drove my buddies Mr2 has very different handling especially being mid engined and 300kgs lighter compared to the soarer. Alot shaper and much less body roll.

I think it would be best to go for an mr2 as they are really common and not to expensive and later find a nice 3.0gt when a decent ones avalible... I could keep both then have a litte sporty car and a crusier.

[V8MOFO]

RIP soarer

You never did show me any pics

[Malcolm]

http://www.fasterthanjesus.net/technical/3sgegen.html

The Gen 1's in St162's etc were around 145hp in Japanese models I believe...

[CozmoNz]

My suggestion, test drive a gen3+ turbo mr2...

180kw 305nm, try find one with leather and manual, very cuirsy cars (bit rough on rough roads, but easily bearable), smooth roads they are great, and alot of fun on the twistys too.

IMHO the best buy, unless you want to strive for more "performance" or more "luxuary"..... gets to a point where you cant have both .

of course, im only saying the mr2 turbo because your already thinking of an mr2....


good fuel economy too!

and roman, you are wise oh master.

[RomanV]

So you're considering the 3 litre non turbo soarer?

My mate has one of these, really nice. Got a 1996 model for under 7 grand.

But keep in mind.... I dragged him off in my KP starlet.

None of my friends believed me, and they were shocked when they heard it from his mouth as well.

He would have blitzed me if we carried on, but we only went until 50-60kph. Its still a reasonably quick car once it gets up and going, but it doesnt have the greatest take off.


And yes of course a turbo MR2 would be great, but not everyone can afford one.

NAs are still good cars, and still a heap of fun to drive.

A gen 5 turbo is obviously the most desirable MR2, but are unaffordable/impossible to find for most.

[CozmoNz]

bang for buck, get a gen 3 turbo, bang for "gonna make cash back" get a gen 5 turbo...

theres not that huge a difference (same engine and drivetrain, ecu bla bla), but the gen 5 will always be worth more *its newier*.

[Malcolm]

But keep in mind.... I dragged him off in my KP starlet.

None of my friends believed me, and they were shocked when they heard it from his mouth as well.

He would have blitzed me if we carried on, but we only went until 50-60kph. Its still a reasonably quick car once it gets up and going, but it doesnt have the greatest take off.

Haha that reminds me of something. Looonie used to have a 13B JC Cosmo, I remember dragging him off in my Corsa with 3 people in it. By about 80kmh he went flying past though...

moral of the story is - heavy lard arse cars suck

[Adamal]

RE: The Trade Me auctions with 3 MR2's.


Anyone notice that one dealer is asking for $9,900 for a '93 with 113,000kms? BWWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAA

Even for a DEALER thats crazy!