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Postby tomo1985 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:48 pm

What weight would you suggest would be the maxium to tow on a BZ-T Carib 6 speed black top?

Where would you suggest in CHCH to get one made custom around my exhaust.

What is the cheapest way of stoping guard rub?? I have 18inch wheels lowered guards rolled would putting in bigger bump stops be ok?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:53 pm

about 950 kgs braked. 750 unbraked.

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fitting bigger bumpstops will just casue you to lose suspension travel. which is bad
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Re: Tow Bar on Carib BZ-T

Postby Chickenman » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:14 pm

tomo1985 wrote:What weight would you suggest would be the maxium to tow on a BZ-T Carib 6 speed black top?

Where would you suggest in CHCH to get one made custom around my exhaust.

What is the cheapest way of stoping guard rub?? I have 18inch wheels lowered guards rolled would putting in bigger bump stops be ok?



You're kidding right?

A 5afe has more power down low than a blacktop, good luck with the hills :roll:
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Postby tomo1985 » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:22 pm

Its only to tow a seadoo jet ski. I know its not going to be the fastest but its all I have at the moment. It would be way under that weight as it only takes three people to lift it.
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Postby Chickenman » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:24 pm

Didn't mean to sound so negative dude.

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Postby BZG Wagon » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:18 pm

I have done 500kgs in a 5 speed Corolla BZ-T no trouble.
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Postby tomo1985 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:08 am

would the 6 speed help it a bit up the hills?
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Postby adamkerrnz » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:18 am

considering you will be in the lower gears going up hills, i dont think a 6 speed will help. i might be wrong.
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Postby tomo1985 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:19 am

I thought the 6 speeds had all shortened gears

All the gears are shorter but work there way up to the same final drive as the 5 speeds. Not the 5 speed box with a extra tall gear.

Am i correct in saying this?
Would there be more NM or touqe at the wheels due to the shorter gears before you caulate the gear ratios into it?

If someone under stands this can they please put me right!!!
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Postby Chickenman » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:14 pm

The 6 speed is a closer ratio box so at 100km's in 6th you're doing about the same revs as a 5 speed(doing 100kph in 5th :roll: ).

But as second has no meaning until 100 kph (when pushing it) the 6 speed is a waste IMHO.


As for the towing? He'll be fine. To be honest I've seen an older honda civic tow a huge furniture trailer, it was braked but my god, you could've driven the car around and round inside the trailer. 8O
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Postby XERO » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:51 pm

My brother tows around a trailer with two go karts and all the equipment to go racing with sweet as, its a 1600cc Pulsar 5 speed, hills and such no probs...

btw, the trailer weights approx 400/500 kgs loaded
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Postby TrouserFxGt » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:57 am

I tow all the time with my 5 spd bz-t.

Three days ago I towed a large trailer with 439kg on it. No problems at all. Up and down hills just fine.

About two months ago I towed with about 8-900 kg on and that was a bit of a struggle but did it fine none the less and with a car load of people. You just have to hold each gear longer than normal. I was changing at 5k.
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Postby BZG Wagon » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:17 pm

Chickenman wrote:The 6 speed is a closer ratio box so at 100km's in 6th you're doing about the same revs as a 5 speed(doing 100kph in 5th :roll: ).

But as second has no meaning until 100 kph (when pushing it) the 6 speed is a waste IMHO.
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Interesting... So any benefit you would recieve from a 6-speed would probably be lost through an extra gear change?

My 5 Speed BZ-Touring hits exactly 100kph in Second @ Redline; can someone with a six speed tell me where their second gear ends?
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Postby Elmendorf » Sun Dec 18, 2005 1:48 pm

Tow bar on mine is rated to 1200kg and has no troubles pulling my Starlet up hills when its been called to do so
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Postby QikStarlie » Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:18 pm

bah, we towed and average sized trailer with 2 moto x bikes and some other crap. with a 1000cc mini with 4 people in it. then again it wasnt a 20v :P
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Postby Chickenman » Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:30 pm

BZG Wagon wrote:
Chickenman wrote:The 6 speed is a closer ratio box so at 100km's in 6th you're doing about the same revs as a 5 speed(doing 100kph in 5th :roll: ).

But as second has no meaning until 100 kph (when pushing it) the 6 speed is a waste IMHO.
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Interesting... So any benefit you would recieve from a 6-speed would probably be lost through an extra gear change?

My 5 Speed BZ-Touring hits exactly 100kph in Second @ Redline; can someone with a six speed tell me where their second gear ends?


The extra gear has been placed after 2nd, they are similar in 1st and 2nd but closer from 3rd to 6th. On a track it would be pretty good but driving around the place I haven't noticed a major difference and think the 6 speed is just a bit of extra bling.
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Postby tomo1985 » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:46 pm

Yeah i find mine is good but not really needed around town. The 3rd and fourth close gears are great for over taking coz you always have a gear in the power range. Also good for going up hills as you dont get stuck between gears.
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:39 pm

TrouserFxGt wrote:I tow all the time with my 5 spd bz-t.

Three days ago I towed a large trailer with 439kg on it. No problems at all. Up and down hills just fine.

About two months ago I towed with about 8-900 kg on and that was a bit of a struggle but did it fine none the less and with a car load of people. You just have to hold each gear longer than normal. I was changing at 5k.

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