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Postby Zyros » Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:49 pm

Hey all, i have toyota corolla fxgt.. 1990.

Now, it has a pod filter in it, but the thing is.. the sensors are just hanging in the bottom half of the airbox.. there are two sensors which i presume are Air conditioning, and air tempature.. Where can i put them?
Im aware that they use to go in a airbox (obviously the top half as the bottom half is still there holding the podfilter up as i think the flexi pipe would bend from weight )

But, with the podfilter in it, i have no idea where to put these censors.. Help? where shall i mount them..
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Postby MINTFX » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:19 am

When I put my pod filter on my '85 FXGT it had 2 tubes going into the airbox. I just put the two ends into each other and away I went :lol: Seems to be fine! Not sure in your case maybe some pics would help?
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Postby Ae92typeX » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:25 am

best thing to do is to put them into the intake line somewhere as they were origonally. Ive seen several done with holes drilled into the intake pipe & the sensors put in there.
Lots of people have also run theirs with them just hanging and 'reported' no problems...
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Postby Zyros » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:26 am

Haha, will it still pass the w.o.f like this, post some pictures up of yours ;)

Yup, heres some pictures.. I have a before and after one already uploaded ill throw on.

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Not very helpful, but heres some pictures of the sensors plus the straw like tube which was also enclosed in the top half of the airbox..

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Yup.. Where to put them now lol
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Postby CozmoNz » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:56 am

First is a vac hose, second is the air temp sensor.

vac hose just either plug it (small screw), or get a T peice and t it into that other vac hose just near it.

the air temp, you can either leave it NEAR the poddie, or drill a hole in the piping, and push it inside there. (with something to hold it in place / glue etc)

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Postby Ae92typeX » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:04 am

Zyros wrote:Haha, will it still pass the w.o.f like this...


as long as everything looks secure it shouldnt have a problem.
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Postby CozmoNz » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:08 am

wait, that vac hose looks like its running to that blue thing? what is that?
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Postby Zyros » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:13 am

Haha, thanks for the femine comment.. actually, believe it or not.. that thumb is not opposable.. cant bend it.. need to get it operated on..

Haha what can i say, 16 and young..

Yea, im not sure what the blue thing is, can you please explain what you wanted me to do with the vacum hose.. is it dangerous having it exposed? ( I could tie it to the hose next to it? )
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Postby CozmoNz » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:38 am

well, you have a vac leak... so plug it with a screw (wind a screw into it) so it dosnt leak anymore :D (plug it with your thumb and see if it idles / runs better).

Duno what the blue sucker does.
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Postby Zyros » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:04 am

It idles.. lol, sounds like it gonna blow up if i block it..
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Postby Malcolm » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:20 am

clearly it is your ISC (idle speed control valve)
might pay to put a filter of some sort over the inlet of it, or plumb it into the intake pipe.
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Postby mr30%jr » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:59 am

dont listen to coz about blocking it up thats why his car spazs :P

i had spare little filters like on thinkgs like blutop tvis they have there own little one. tax one of those

air temp sensor... either make hole or resistor mod it sooo it just doesnt have a sensor

should pass a wof either way its none of there bussines

ps. is that an intake resinator? on the intake pipe... dump it. but plz dont replace with another pod filter... i seen some dorks celica with that... funny i saw this in a car at a crashed car auction (didnt suprise me)
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Postby Caveman » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:33 am

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This is the line which goes to the VSV. If not using VSV block it.

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The is the air temp sensor. Put it between your trottle body and filter with the pointy end going in the pipe.

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This is a VSV, or V-ISC as All_Fours stated. You should attach the end which was originally in the intake back in, the other pipe should attach back to the one in photo 1.

Your an idiot for putting your pod there and you deserve all the powerloss you get. In the future it might be a good idea to box it and duct cold air to it, or move the pod to a colder location.
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Postby Mr. Mainstream » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:16 pm

Zyros for the love of god remove your battery. stand and look at your engine for a hour, im serious. and think about where you pod is sitting
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Postby Cakky » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:43 pm

ive just installed a k&n in the same manner and am wondering for the afm, if it would be alright to drill a small hole in the rubber neck of the k&n and plug it into there?

also with the vsv ( the small blue part ) it was just held onto to the side of the airbox with a mount, nothing was sticking into the airbox and all the lines are already leading to it, so i just remounted it off a hole on the sway bar, will this be alright?
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Postby Caveman » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:23 pm

Cakky wrote:ive just installed a k&n in the same manner and am wondering for the afm, if it would be alright to drill a small hole in the rubber neck of the k&n and plug it into there?

also with the vsv ( the small blue part ) it was just held onto to the side of the airbox with a mount, nothing was sticking into the airbox and all the lines are already leading to it, so i just remounted it off a hole on the sway bar, will this be alright?


There is a small small tiny hole in the blue vsv housing.

Best to have it after the air filter
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Postby jondee86 » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:45 pm

The valve with the blue plug is your idle-up (V-ISC) valve. It is supposed
to be on the end of the shiney black tube, and it adjusts the idle speed
according to the load that certain ancilliary items place on the engine.

It will not work when it is removed from the airbox. What you have now
(with the end of the tube open) is a constant leakage of unfiltered air into
the intake plenum. This will increase your idle speed all the time.

The other hose probably leads to the charcoal canister, and extracts
petrol fumes from the fuel tank vent system.

The temperature probe should be in the intake ducting.

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Postby Cakky » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:15 pm

1998 wrote:
Cakky wrote:ive just installed a k&n in the same manner and am wondering for the afm, if it would be alright to drill a small hole in the rubber neck of the k&n and plug it into there?

also with the vsv ( the small blue part ) it was just held onto to the side of the airbox with a mount, nothing was sticking into the airbox and all the lines are already leading to it, so i just remounted it off a hole on the sway bar, will this be alright?


There is a small small tiny hole in the blue vsv housing.

Best to have it after the air filter


It appeared when I moved it off the mount of the airbox though that there was no part whatsoever inside the airbox, the vsv was just mounted to the airbox :\
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Postby Cakky » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:37 pm

couple of pics, cold air box coming soon...

will the afm be alright poked into the neck of the filter like that? does it need to be pushed all the way? its currently pushed in about half way..

and the vsv?? mounted to the sway bar..

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Postby Caveman » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:44 pm

I think you maybe confusing the afm with something else.

Do a little research first.
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