Which vented rotors fit the rear of an AW11?

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Which vented rotors fit the rear of an AW11?

Postby Kender » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:31 pm

Hi

I'm looking to convert the back brakes of my AW11 from a solid rotor to a vented rotor. Does anyone know of any rotor/caliper combinations that will fit? I think that the rear rotors off the MR-S might work, but the only place I can find them is at my local Toyota dealer, and he claims they're ex-japan and cost $500 each.

Does anyone know how the handbrake on the MR-S Spyder works? Does it use the pads like the AW11's ans SW20's, or does it have shoes in the centre?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:33 pm

i think its the sw20 rears you want

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Postby Malcolm » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:53 pm

yeah sw20 rears can be swapped relatively easy, but obviously you need to re-drill the rotors, and also get a spigot adapter because the center hole on the sw20 ones is much larger.
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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:33 am

All_Fours wrote:yeah sw20 rears can be swapped relatively easy, but obviously you need to re-drill the rotors, and also get a spigot adapter because the center hole on the sw20 ones is much larger.

you also need the sw20 calipers :D

you can also redrill the front rotors and machine them a little to use them
off a st 162 celica

hope that helps

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Postby Malcolm » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:19 am

vvega wrote:
All_Fours wrote:yeah sw20 rears can be swapped relatively easy, but obviously you need to re-drill the rotors, and also get a spigot adapter because the center hole on the sw20 ones is much larger.

you also need the sw20 calipers :D


When I said 'rears' I meant the entire set up. Because you also need the caliper brackets :D
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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:22 am

All_Fours wrote:
vvega wrote:
All_Fours wrote:yeah sw20 rears can be swapped relatively easy, but obviously you need to re-drill the rotors, and also get a spigot adapter because the center hole on the sw20 ones is much larger.

you also need the sw20 calipers :D


When I said 'rears' I meant the entire set up. Because you also need the caliper brackets :D


lol
do you ??
mine seam to fit up fine :S

but yeah rear setup is best aye :D

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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:25 am

hey makcom the s/c outer cv's are a direct fit on the sw20 shafts ??
and have you got any rear sw20 hubs ??
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Postby Malcolm » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:02 pm

you must have some of the very thin rotors for them to fit in aw11 brackets!

And yes, the s/c outer cv's fit right on to the sw20 driveshafts. ST185 (and probably st165) outer CV's seem to be identical to the s/c ones.

I have one rear sw20 turbo hub.
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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:21 pm

All_Fours wrote:you must have some of the very thin rotors for them to fit in aw11 brackets!

And yes, the s/c outer cv's fit right on to the sw20 driveshafts. ST185 (and probably st165) outer CV's seem to be identical to the s/c ones.

I have one rear sw20 turbo hub.


lol oh i see what you mean now
no im useing the caliper and the caliper braket :D
i thought you ment something else lol

hmm
im gunna remachine the stub to fit in the aw11 rear hub
that should get me over the hav to have 5x114 stud patten issue
will also give me the larger sw20 cv spline :D

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Postby Kender » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:20 pm

I have 2 different calipers which will bolt up nicely to the hub, however the problem I have is that the vented disc will not sit flat against the bearing/wheel assembly. It's because the wider vented rotor hits the lugs on the hub that the caliper bolts onto. It looks like I need a rotor with a hat height of around 17mm (as opposed to the standard 25mm), and I haven't been able to find one yet.
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Postby vvega » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:22 pm

hmm what calipers are you attaully useung ??

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Postby Malcolm » Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:52 pm

vvega wrote:hmm
im gunna remachine the stub to fit in the aw11 rear hub
that should get me over the hav to have 5x114 stud patten issue
will also give me the larger sw20 cv spline :D

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Have you checked to see if there's enough meat on the sw20 stub to allow it to be machined down to fit in to the aw11 bearing? That would be my main concern.
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Postby ATOYOTA » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:02 am

sorry but can i ask y are u wanting to do this conversion on the rear
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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:09 am

are you talking about the original question (rear brake upgrade for aw11), or the sw20 hubs onto the aw11?
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Postby ATOYOTA » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:12 am

yea for the aw11
jus interested to know why
unless u had heaps of power and had already upgraded the front as to why wanting to change the rear and make it look kool
i would thinnk that your car would need to b pretty modifyed to need vented calipers on the rear
i worked on a zze corolla that was a import had a 2zzge motor and it had the zze rotors and calipers on it that were non vented
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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:46 pm

power doesn't really have that much to do with breaking requirements.

If you're racing a car, you really want vented rotors everywhere. A big complaint I've had in the past with the breaking on an aw11 is that the front seems to lock up a lot easier than the back, making stopping distances longer than they should be. Unfortunately due to the weight distribution of the aw11 there is only so much breaking the front can do, so upgrades for the back are very worthwhile, especially since many people have a lot more tyre on the rear than the front (I have about 4 inches more width on the back than front)
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Postby vvega » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:04 pm

All_Fours wrote:
vvega wrote:hmm
im gunna remachine the stub to fit in the aw11 rear hub
that should get me over the hav to have 5x114 stud patten issue
will also give me the larger sw20 cv spline :D

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Have you checked to see if there's enough meat on the sw20 stub to allow it to be machined down to fit in to the aw11 bearing? That would be my main concern.

thats why i want a stub :D
if not ill more the hub to take the larger bearing.... prolly a better idea :D

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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:09 pm

well you can come and take away the sw20 turbo hub/bearing/carrier I've got here, but I will keep the brakes from it, thank you :)
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Postby vvega » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:20 pm

hehe
i might yet :D
im just tring to find another turbo for the gt4 :D

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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:57 pm

I've got a lovely Blitz one here you could buy :lol:
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