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What springs are fxgt club car owners using??? AE82 fxgt

Postby crispy'86 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:52 pm

Having driven my second speed event on Saturday i've come to the conclusion what i need to sort out, The front of my fx is a bit soft in the spring rate, The rear needs to be lowered to even out the ride height or lower it a bit.
What do all you track guys use in your fx's?? The concoction in mine is as follows:
Cobra springs front and rear, gabriel shocks 2 months old, extra sway bar on rear, Bridgestone potenza road tyres.
Anyone got any easily interchangable spring options they know about? I was thinking st16/82 celica rear and lower them appropriately,sv30 camry fronts?? Also what about spring re-tempering, would it alter the spring rate??
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Postby crispy'86 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:28 am

anyone?
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Postby shazeal » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:42 am

Probably not much help but Ill try. Think I told u this when u came around. When I was in the UK I took my escort mk4 to a racing suspension shop and got them to setup my suspension wanted max handling on corners. They put in some linear rate jamex 30mm lowering springs front and rear and koni short stroke shocks front and rear with full set of whiteline bushes. Previously the car had progressive 30mm lowering springs (were blue whatever that is) and kyb gas shocks. The difference on silverstone was amazing (not club racing but open days they had every month), it was alot more predictable on the corners I dont remember my times sorry but it dropped them alot :)

Pretty unscientific lol, but linear made a huge diff but I had to use short stroke to keep it captive which made ride comfort awful, but oh so fun.
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Postby Distrb » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:21 am

Up until now i had been running a set of 'low' king springs (with Kyb Shocks) and whiteline 20mm adjustable rear swaybar. This setup worked superbly on road sprints & hillclimbs, but all the flaws came to light when on the track.

Faar too soft in the front which attributes to many problems, scariest being under hard braking (which allowed the rear wheels to both come clean off the ground 8O )

Currently in development are some custom made coilovers using a Koni/King combo. So lots of testing time with suspension settings will be had when i've finished those
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Postby Leon » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:40 am

King + KYB in mine.

Too soft for ultimate victory on race tracks, but a good all around compromise for the variety of events I do.
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Postby mr pad » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:00 am

If one wanted some good, hard, shocks and wasn't to worried (not at all) about ride hight and firmness what would you guys suggest? Engine will be getting another rebuild first.. but its something to look froward too.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:14 am

for race use id look at konis or bilstein.

or modify things to fit TRDs
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Postby crispy'86 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:12 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:for race use id look at konis or bilstein.

or modify things to fit TRDs


what listings do you have for trd fronts Warwick? ideally it's front of the car that needs to be stiffer, as for the rear i've got a set of springs which would suffice but need to get shock machined to suit the spring to keep it captive
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:20 pm

for TRD into an ae82 you need to modify it to take ae92 or ae101 struts
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Postby Brick » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:31 pm

Bilstein Shocks, Dobi springs

handles f**ken good 8)
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Postby shazeal » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:54 pm

Yea Ive only ever heard good stuff about bilstein, mate of mine used them in his Lotus Elise race car never had problems, touch expensive and probably hard to get serviced in NZ?
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Postby Distrb » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:58 pm

shazeal wrote:Yea Ive only ever heard good stuff about bilstein, mate of mine used them in his Lotus Elise race car never had problems, touch expensive and probably hard to get serviced in NZ?


Autolign service and sell bilstein kits.
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Postby crispy'86 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:18 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:for TRD into an ae82 you need to modify it to take ae92 or ae101 struts


Wouldn't be that hard would it?? after all ae92 struts to me looking at it length of the struts are same as ae82. What exactly would i have to do?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:19 pm

dont know... try it and see :D

post the results up for a FAQ :D
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Postby crispy'86 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:32 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:dont know... try it and see :D

post the results up for a FAQ :D


okay, now all i need is a listing for all trd springs you can get
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:37 am

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Postby crispy'86 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:11 pm

Ok anyone heard of boge shocks?? I talked to sas yesterday and they said that's best typr of shock as i don't want to go for coil overs. Who's heard good/ bad things about these?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:00 pm

i think you will find boge ones are just generic replacments. ie no sports value at all. could be wrong though.
you really need to be looking at something like koni imo
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Postby crispy'86 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:03 pm

Man's got a ponit, Koni's would be a bit further down the list of development i think at this stage, may try and get you to give me some prices on trd ae92 inserts Warwick, hope ya got the e-mail alright
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Postby KinLoud » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:52 pm

Just before your order new suspension... please answer a couple of questions. This will help identify what you have and what might need to be changed to improve your car.
- when you drove in the "speed events" what track/part of track where you driving on? Ruapuna?
- what didn't you like about your cars handling? understeer, oversteer, bodyroll, turn in response, stability under braking?
- did the handling you don't like occur at high speeds or low speeds?
- what rate springs do you have at the moment?
- why do you say you need higher spring rate in the front?
- "extra swaybar on rear" - have you doubled up 2 swaybars?

Spring retempering will not change the spring rate.
If you don't know what spring rate you have, I can help you work it out.

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