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SW20 3SGTE gearbox diferences?

Postby Kender » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:09 pm

According to Toyotas TRD website, the gearbox in an '89-'92 SW20 3SGTE requires a different LSD part number to that in a '92-> SW20 3SGTE.

Are there any other differences between the 2 gearboxes, and are the 2 interchangeable?
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Re: SW20 3SGTE gearbox diferences?

Postby Al » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:37 am

Kender wrote:According to Toyotas TRD website, the gearbox in an '89-'92 SW20 3SGTE requires a different LSD part number to that in a '92-> SW20 3SGTE.

Are there any other differences between the 2 gearboxes, and are the 2 interchangeable?


The early box will accept an aw11 sc lsd unit. The later boxes have electronic speedo drives. You can use a later model box on a early model.
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Postby pureadrenalin » Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:29 pm

To add to Kender's question, are the housings interchangable?

I've managed to crack my 93+ around the LSD (long story).
I have a couple of spare 89-92 gearbox's.
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Postby Kender » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:12 pm

Cheers Al

Pureadrenalin, I think Al's saying that the housings are interchangeable.
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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:56 pm

The housings are not interchangeable, the gearboxes are, provided you also change the axles as well ;)

The later model gearbox has the good dual cone synchros and the LSD as standard, the early model has the crappy sychros and no LSD standard. IME the early gearboxes all have synchro problems (typically 1st to 2nd), the later models have no issues with synchros.
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Postby 92mr2paddy » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:14 pm

so lets say i have a gen2 92 gearbox and i wanna swap it with a gen3 93 i have to have the gen3 axles????? both gearboxes are from the turbo model, i know that the gen2 non turbo has much smaller shafts, is there a difference though with the gen2/gen3 turbo shafts???

because if thats the case i NEED gen3 axles, hahaha
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Postby Akane » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:38 pm

I changed from Gen 2 (Mar 93) to Gen 3 ('95 according to Mr Wreckers) without any problems, actually I can't tell what the difference is.
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Postby 92mr2paddy » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:52 pm

phew ... (relief)

and i thought i mite of bought a dud atfer all,, hehe

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Postby fivebob » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:52 pm

Akane wrote:I changed from Gen 2 (Mar 93) to Gen 3 ('95 according to Mr Wreckers) without any problems, actually I can't tell what the difference is.

That's because there is no difference ;)
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Postby Kender » Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:39 pm

fivebob wrote:The housings are not interchangeable, the gearboxes are, provided you also change the axles as well ;)


What is the difference in the axles? Is it just the diameter of the shaft (phraw, that sounds rude) or are the inner cvs different as well?
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Postby fivebob » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:07 am

Kender wrote:
fivebob wrote:The housings are not interchangeable, the gearboxes are, provided you also change the axles as well ;)


What is the difference in the axles? Is it just the diameter of the shaft (phraw, that sounds rude) or are the inner cvs different as well?


Nope it's the length of the shaft splines ;)

Later model LSD ones are shorter.
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Postby pureadrenalin » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:51 am

^^^^^
by about 5mm (check when I put my last one in.
If you put an aftermaket LSD in, they (all the ones I know) take both years axles.

Dam it. Now I have to find another 93+ gearbox. Anyone...... lol
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Postby 92mr2paddy » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:20 pm

man thats confusing,

so the gen2 turbo axles splines are longer than the gen3 ones meaning that the gen2 axles wont fit with the gen3 box???

huh?
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Postby fivebob » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:31 pm

92mr2paddy wrote:man thats confusing,

so the gen2 turbo axles splines are longer than the gen3 ones meaning that the gen2 axles wont fit with the gen3 box???

huh?

No, the Series 2 SW20 (Prod date 12/91 Chassis # 0059266 onwards), has the same gearbox (with LSD standard) as the Series 3, 4, & 5 and therefore the same axles.

The only different gearbox and axles are the pre'92 Series 1's, which didn't have the LSD as standard, and had the longer axles that won't fit the other gearboxes.
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Postby Kender » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:29 pm

cool. thanks fivebob. That last explanation simplifies things enough even for me to understand :lol:
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Postby 92mr2paddy » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:20 pm

ok, lol

im enlightnened!! haha cheers for the info!
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