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Postby barryogen » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:31 pm

I just heard on ZM that they are changing the law for exhaust noise to be 90db... anyone heard about this at all?

I don't necessarily disagree with it, just wondered why it hadn't come up in conversation with anyone, or discussed here.

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It is only for car's entering the fleet.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10481894

The Government is changing the rules on noisy vehicles but most old bangers will be able to keep revving away at current limits.

A new noise test would also be added to warrant of fitness checks.

Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven said changes to the vehicle equipment rule to target excessively noisy vehicles would come into effect after next June. They would only affect cars and light trucks entering the New Zealand fleet from then.

The new noise level would be 90 decibels - 5dcb lower than now.

"This rule will be fully implemented by June next year and will reduce exhaust noise decibel limits for all light vehicles, as well as toughening the subjective noise inspection criteria," Mr Duynhoven said.

An objective noise test, which uses scientific procedures to measure noise levels, would be a part of the warrant (WoF) and certificate of fitness (CoF) tests.

Mr Duynhoven said the test would strengthen the interim measures implemented in July 2006, which enabled the police and certifiers of vehicles for first registration in New Zealand to refer a vehicle for an objective exhaust noise test.

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"WoF and CoF testers will continue to test subjectively for noise when checking vehicles as part of their normal certification process. However, this will be to screen out vehicles that are not modified, or are clearly below the decibel limit," Mr Duynhoven said.

A six month implementation plan will be rolled out early in the New Year to ensure industry and suppliers know how to enforce the rule.

Full details on the Land Transport Rule Vehicle Equipment Amendment 2007 can be found at www.landtransport.govt.nz

Police are already able to issue instant a $250 infringement offence notice carrying 10 demerit points for people driving excessively noisy vehicles including noise from stereos and boom boxes.
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:01 pm

Good idea, but should be the same standards for motorbikes, they should also drop 5db. Their reasoning of the engine & exhaust being closer on bikes should also be applied to mid or rear engined cars, which the law doesn't seem to take account of. In my opinion Harleys & similar bikes are far noiser than most cars including 'boy racers', they must regularly breach 100db
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Postby Alex B » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:19 pm

rolla_fxgt wrote:Good idea, but should be the same standards for motorbikes, they should also drop 5db. Their reasoning of the engine & exhaust being closer on bikes should also be applied to mid or rear engined cars, which the law doesn't seem to take account of. In my opinion Harleys & similar bikes are far noiser than most cars including 'boy racers', they must regularly breach 100db



You are allowed it slightly louder on MR/RR cars.
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Postby pureadrenalin » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:43 pm

Dam, I thought 95db was low.

4db more for a MR/RR
2db more for a MSNZ reg car

101db for me 8)

I think i exceed even this tho :(
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Postby touge rolla » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:47 pm

nzpc did a good article on this a while back. and they tested a few cars. iirc standard commodore>95db
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:29 pm

its all in the test procedure....
i bet you i could test a brand new lexus at over 95.....
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Postby Mr.Phreak » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:11 pm

pyro_sniper2002 wrote:You are allowed it slightly louder on MR/RR cars.

You sure?? I know that was the case originally, but see no mention in the amendments
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Postby Alex B » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:19 pm

Not 100%, just remember reading it somewhere.
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:25 am

Mr.Phreak wrote:
pyro_sniper2002 wrote:You are allowed it slightly louder on MR/RR cars.

You sure?? I know that was the case originally, but see no mention in the amendments


Yeah thats why i was worried. But all the MR exotics will be exempt cause they'll of passed an overseas noise test in the country of manufacture, so actually i can't see why we need the law anyway
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Postby big-ben-007 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:53 pm

rolla_fxgt wrote:Yeah thats why i was worried. But all the MR exotics will be exempt cause they'll of passed an overseas noise test in the country of manufacture, so actually i can't see why we need the law anyway


They need it to keep the greenie's happy (election soon), so the the green vision of everyone pedeling round on bikes on a saturday night is closer to a reality.

Also since most polititians wouldnt know the difference between the throttle and the clutch they may have the percerption this may make the noise less around neigbourhoods etc. but lets face it most cars that are loud are 1991 honda integras with a baked been cans welded on the end :lol:
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:19 pm

big-ben-007 wrote:
rolla_fxgt wrote:Yeah thats why i was worried. But all the MR exotics will be exempt cause they'll of passed an overseas noise test in the country of manufacture, so actually i can't see why we need the law anyway


They need it to keep the greenie's happy (election soon), so the the green vision of everyone pedeling round on bikes on a saturday night is closer to a reality.

Also since most polititians wouldnt know the difference between the throttle and the clutch they may have the percerption this may make the noise less around neigbourhoods etc. but lets face it most cars that are loud are 1991 honda integras with a baked been cans welded on the end :lol:


True but anything allready in the country has a 95db limit, so go figure
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Postby KinLoud » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:42 pm

"Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven said changes to the vehicle equipment rule to target excessively noisy vehicles would come into effect after next June. They would only affect cars and light trucks entering the New Zealand fleet from then."

I read it as only affecting vehicles imported after the rule comes into force.

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Postby FST4RD » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:24 pm

I was reading the press today and on the front it was saying that they are going to target "boyracers".

But then again my mate works out at the airport and has access to a DB meter and they tested a factory STI and it came in at over 90db and they tested his supercharged levin with an upgraded exhaust and it came in at under 90db.... reason why... cause the subaru has a deeper exhaust is has more energy so reads higher on the DB meter.
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Postby ollieboy » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:07 pm

Buses also read over 90db, yet the government would like everyone to take the bus, a little consistency would be nice.
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:47 pm

ollieboy wrote:Buses also read over 90db, yet the government would like everyone to take the bus, a little consistency would be nice.


A lot of the imported buses are the biggest polluters on the road too, not to mention shabby looking & some are down right dangerous.

So a hope of consistency from LTSA is about as likely as suicide bombers actually entering the afterlife surrounded by a harem of virgins :lol:
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Postby Bling » Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:54 am

rolla_fxgt wrote:So a hope of consistency from LTSA is about as likely as suicide bombers actually entering the afterlife surrounded by a harem of virgins :lol:


well summed up! :lol:
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Postby Trls250s » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:01 am

The law should be abolished and in its place an emission law.

Everywhere else in the world has emission laws but not NZ, and now they have made it so you cant import anything older then 10 years old! (so much for me bringing over another AE86)

If they wanted to be green emissions testing is the way. I dont like the fact id need to change my brand new exhaust to compinsate but its a better reason to do it.

Agreed to the harley comment, one lives down my street and its F*cking loud.
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Postby Defective » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:32 am

FST4RD wrote:I was reading the press today and on the front it was saying that they are going to target "boyracers".

But then again my mate works out at the airport and has access to a DB meter and they tested a factory STI and it came in at over 90db and they tested his supercharged levin with an upgraded exhaust and it came in at under 90db.... reason why... cause the subaru has a deeper exhaust is has more energy so reads higher on the DB meter.


yep, same as my old trueno, when it got green stickered it read 104db (i think).... but after two resonators it dropped to 89db, but now it sets of car alarms when i go past, which it never did before. all because the note got a lot deeper, and i thought it actually seemed louder... go figure.
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Postby barryogen » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:29 am

Trls250s wrote:(so much for me bringing over another AE86)


Personal imports do not have ot comply with this change... only commercial ones... not sure on the specifics of how that works, but there you go.
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Postby Trls250s » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:13 pm

I doubt you will be able to road resgister a 86 with the new compliance rules.

Theres no law in bringing over what ever you want from overseas, its just getting it through compliance and being road legal.

Thats why there are so many R32 GTR's that cant be complied kicking around trademe cause of the frontal impact laws.
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