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Postby Sonic » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:49 pm

well, i blew up the gearbox in my ae92 trueno get-to-work-mobile, so hey it's a chance to upgrade. engine is a small port 4age. will a gze gearbox be a simple swap? (and an upgrade over a standard box for that matter?)

what about possible engine conversions - 4agze, will this be easy? what parts will i need to source? 20v conversion? etc

also on a different subject, if i were to turbo the motor i currently have, would i need to touch the injectors, fuel pump, or ecu? or do the standard units have a little bit of head room.

any help is appreciated =)
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Postby Jooce » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:06 pm

*waiting in anticipation for answers*
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:48 pm

thats a lot of questions....

all of which can be answered by having a look around the forums....

a GZE box would be the worst thing you could do. the ratios are just wrong.

a 20v would be an improvement, bt not enough to make the cost/hassle worth it.

so, unless you have 5k to throw at it..... just stick another box back in
if you can get a c56 from an AE111 with superstrut. better ratios and factory LSD.
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Postby levinguy » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:40 pm

c56, and rebuilt smallport with some mild cams, intake and exhaust, 8), 20 valve isnt worth the hassle unless you know what your doing, and get a good deal
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Postby Sonic » Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:35 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:thats a lot of questions....

all of which can be answered by having a look around the forums....

a GZE box would be the worst thing you could do. the ratios are just wrong.

a 20v would be an improvement, bt not enough to make the cost/hassle worth it.

so, unless you have 5k to throw at it..... just stick another box back in
if you can get a c56 from an AE111 with superstrut. better ratios and factory LSD.


yeah i had a look around but couldn't find clear cut answers. My most likely thing i was going to do was put in a gze box, so thanks for suggesting not to do that, exactly the heads up i needed.

a c56 from an ae111 with superstrut - will i have to change anything else on my car or is it just straight swap? sounds like a good option indeed
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Re: ae92 upgrade ideas

Postby Crampy » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:04 pm

Sonic wrote:also on a different subject, if i were to turbo the motor i currently have, would i need to touch the injectors, fuel pump, or ecu? or do the standard units have a little bit of head room.


There's a guy on here that turboed his Smallport. He used a VF8 Subaru Turbo from memory and used a full 4AGZE computer and loom. He got about 130ish kw at the wheels at 8 psi boost and apparently went very well. He might be able to clarify or correct this. It's Caveman from memory.
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Re: ae92 upgrade ideas

Postby THA SHZ » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:13 am

Crampy wrote:There's a guy on here that turboed his Smallport. He used a VF8 Subaru Turbo from memory and used a full 4AGZE computer and loom. He got about 130ish kw at the wheels at 8 psi boost and apparently went very well. He might be able to clarify or correct this. It's Caveman from memory.


Yes but he also did the majority of the work himself and it still cost a bit , unless as warrick says , if he has 5 k to throw at it , then it wouldnt be worth it unless he could do all the work himself 8)
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Postby Crampy » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:39 am

Well yeah, but I'm doing a turbo conversion on my own car and all up it's cost less than $5k and that's including buying the car for just under $2000.

Got all my stuff of Trademe or Toyspeed, plus a bit of stuff from the US. MSD stuff from Summitracing.

While it wont be anything flash when compared to Brendon's or Barry's cars, not to mention all the other guys with over 200KW at the wheels, it should still be a quick and fun car.
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Postby THA SHZ » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:50 am

Thats good , its good to see people doin their own stuff , you can appreciate it alot more , good luck with it but also budget a little more money for all those unexpected things , if you can do it under $5000 thats awesome , mine owes me $7000 but have rebuilt from ground up with everything new 8)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:50 am

yeah it can be done




but not by all... the poster will know if he can do all the work himself and what he capable of.
its up to him to choose the option that works best for him
all we can do is give those options
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Postby Sonic » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:24 pm

yeah cheers guys. i don't do bugger all work on my own cars (electrical, about it), but my flatmate works in a shop that does lots of custom work and such. i think i'm just going to go with a gearbox for now, to save money. i wouldn't be doing it for outright power, as i have a 200 4wkw rex in the garage. just do it for the sake of doing it :lol:

hey mr revhead, you mentioned that a gze box's ratios would be wrong. do you mean that it won't work, or just that it will do obscure things? Would you be able to elaborate on this a bit mate?
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:50 pm

Sonic wrote:yeah cheers guys. i don't do bugger all work on my own cars (electrical, about it), but my flatmate works in a shop that does lots of custom work and such. i think i'm just going to go with a gearbox for now, to save money. i wouldn't be doing it for outright power, as i have a 200 4wkw rex in the garage. just do it for the sake of doing it :lol:

hey mr revhead, you mentioned that a gze box's ratios would be wrong. do you mean that it won't work, or just that it will do obscure things? Would you be able to elaborate on this a bit mate?


Basically the gze gears are way too long for a torqueless 4age - it would struggle to get to its peaky powerband. Plus the E5* are heavier.

It would be sluggish as hell.
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Postby Sonic » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:15 pm

ah cheers for clearing that up. i'm assuming the box itself is stronger...? so it would be fine for an interim measure assuming i was going to turbo it at a later stage by the sound of it
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Postby Crampy » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:24 pm

Yes thery are stronger. They can handle poo loads of power.
But the problem is they use different clutches and differnet drive safts, CVs and therefore different hubs as well.

Not like a C56, which will go straight in.
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Postby IH8TEC » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:04 pm

put whole 4agze setup in :wink:
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Postby FST4RD » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:18 pm

Be easier just to flick yours and buy something that has already had everything done to it like this viewtopic.php?t=62801 :wink:
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