turbo a silvertop

[275gsr]

hey guys ive tried search but its not direct on what i want...so i just want to know is it possible and what parts will i need?....and i was thinking would a turbo from a 93 gsr work?

[escortman]

theres plenty information on that exact qns
but yes it is possible to see what you need have a look at mine and some of the other 4agte projects
a td04 would be a bit small really
search properly

[barryogen]

a td04 would be a bit small really

why is it that a TD04, which would be off an 1800(or 2000cc ?) engine be too small for the 1600?

surely it would be ideal?

Just interested.

[JustinSpiderholden]

a td04 would be a bit small really

why is it that a TD04, which would be off an 1800(or 2000cc ?) engine be too small for the 1600?

surely it would be ideal?

Just interested.

4ages flow alot of air so there fore can use a much large turbo than what would be othere wise used on a 1600

[barryogen]

4ages flow alot of air so there fore can use a much large turbo than what would be othere wise used on a 1600

after hitting submit I had that same though... so same would apply for say, a 3sge in an Altezza?

[tsoob]

t3/t4 is ideal, look at the thread on ih8tec's car or bazdas, they have pretty much everything you need to know, there was even a specs thread a while back that has everyones build specs in it.

[Crampy]

I'd say a TDO5-H is ideal for a 4AGE. Don't bother with a TDO4.

I still think the T3/T4 is a wee bit too big for true street driven car. All good for drag racing and making butt loads of power.

There was guy here who turboed a stock Silvertop, with a TDO5-H and used a link. It made from memory around 150kw or so at the wheels on very low boost. While not the sort of power levels most are going for these days, it'd still haul ar$e and be fun on the road.

[tsoob]

yes true, t3 is easy to replace and there are heaps of them available, hence my favoritsm for that turbo. and more power..

[Crampy]

TDO5s are quite cheap and are very reliable (not like the TDO4). They're are also more compact than the T3/T4 turbos.

My mate has one on her DeSol CRX. 200 kw at the wheels at 8psi, on a stock B18C. Good turbos.

There are also a few different trims to choose from.

[escortman]

yeh i went tdo5 16g instead of the t04e like brendon and others cuz i wanted my power earlier and it shows in my timeslip 1st time out 13.8 on about 10psi

[method]

HT18 with a milled out T3 O4U exhaust housing works real well

Flows heaps of air and spools relatively quick

[Crampy]

HT18 with a milled out T3 O4U exhaust housing works real well

Flows heaps of air and spools relatively quick

I've got one of those, good turbo. But, I'm not spooling anywhere near early enough. My tune will be causing that though.

Still, they are getting very old these days, so i'd say better off going for a more modern TDO5-H.

[Zyros]

I got a GTIR T28 turbo, with a smaller exhaust housing to spool up quicker

[matt dunn]

I got a GTIR T28 turbo, with a smaller exhaust housing to spool up quicker

Exactly what I had on my 1600 that made 292hp atw.

The GTiR wheels, but the Silvia .64 rear housing instead of the .86 GTiR one.

A TD04 will be fine for a street car, will be down on top end power compared to others, but will boost early and go better than a supercharger.

[275gsr]

I got a GTIR T28 turbo, with a smaller exhaust housing to spool up quicker

Exactly what I had on my 1600 that made 292hp atw.

The GTiR wheels, but the Silvia .64 rear housing instead of the .86 GTiR one.

A TD04 will be fine for a street car, will be down on top end power compared to others, but will boost early and go better than a supercharger.

thats what i kinda figured out i mean in a gsr they go real good for pull, but i didnt know it will be small for a 1600? i would think that it ill be like upgrading a to a tdo5h on a gsr?

[275gsr]

please correct me if im wrong...

all i need is
turbo(ive already got a td04)
turbo manifold(custom made to suit turbo)
intercooler
BOV
ECU(im not looking on aftermarket ones i was told to use a 4GZE bt the problem is that it doesnt control the quad TBs)

????
thanks

[Crampy]

Good start, but I think you don't really comprehend the amount of work involved in getting it all going well.

You'll need oil feed, oil return and water piping for the turbo. Then the intercooler piping.

It'll need a new plenum chamber, as the stock one tends to pop with boost applied.

Injectors: They'll need to be side feed if you're going to use the same fuel rail. the stock ones will be able to handle a little bit of boost, but it depends on how much power you're aiming for.

Then the ECU. Get a link or something similar. The quads on the silvertop are tricky to tune, due to the weak vacuum at idle. You'll need a vacuum accumulator for the MAP sensor, or you'll have a $hit of time getting it to idle and getting the tune right.
You will have a hard time to get a turbo 20 Valve to work with a 4AGZE computer. Once again due to the quads, but also the VVT and the fact the head is a lot different to the 16v ones. Personally, I haven't heard of a turbo 20 Valve being run with a 4AGZE computer, but it may have been done.

Maybe a fuel pump.

Maybe an aftermarket fuel pressure reg.

Clutch.

It all adds up.

OR.

Just buy a turbo car. After getting all the bit to turbo my Ae92 FXGT, I just gave up and ave bought a turboed AE101 Levin GT-Z, easy.
It needs a few things done to it, but it already has all the good bits on it, Link, LSD, good clutch, injectors etc, etc.....

[275gsr]

Good start, but I think you don't really comprehend the amount of work involved in getting it all going well.

You'll need oil feed, oil return and water piping for the turbo. Then the intercooler piping.

It'll need a new plenum chamber, as the stock one tends to pop with boost applied.

Injectors: They'll need to be side feed if you're going to use the same fuel rail. the stock ones will be able to handle a little bit of boost, but it depends on how much power you're aiming for.

Then the ECU. Get a link or something similar. The quads on the silvertop are tricky to tune, due to the weak vacuum at idle. You'll need a vacuum accumulator for the MAP sensor, or you'll have a $hit of time getting it to idle and getting the tune right.
You will have a hard time to get a turbo 20 Valve to work with a 4AGZE computer. Once again due to the quads, but also the VVT and the fact the head is a lot different to the 16v ones. Personally, I haven't heard of a turbo 20 Valve being run with a 4AGZE computer, but it may have been done.

Maybe a fuel pump.

Maybe an aftermarket fuel pressure reg.

Clutch.

It all adds up.

OR.

Just buy a turbo car. After getting all the bit to turbo my Ae92 FXGT, I just gave up and ave bought a turboed AE101 Levin GT-Z, easy.
It needs a few things done to it, but it already has all the good bits on it, Link, LSD, good clutch, injectors etc, etc.....

wow im speechless lol.....man there is alot to consider i guess we didnt think it over properly, and how much is involved

thank you so much

[escortman]

what pistons are u going 2 run?

[275gsr]

well we wanted just to put a turbo on the silvertop as is and of course having low boost?