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by **TRD_ZERO** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:06 pm

Ive got some trd adjustable shocks and got some trd springs. I got told the springs will lower the car 20-30mm. Now that isnt much and isnt going to look staunch enough. I measured the spring and if i cut 1 coil out they wil stil be captive in the strut. Im just worried doing this will mess up the spring in some way. Any ideas on what i could do?

by **metal_sean_head** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:28 pm

But it will be illegal. What about getting them compressed?

by **cat007** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:30 pm

If you don't care about handling or a nice ride then cut or compress them.

by **touge_ae101** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:40 pm

metal_sean_head wrote:But it will be illegal. What about getting them compressed?

only illegal if it isn't captive. compressing them would screw up the spring rates etc.

not sure if i would want to cut a coil out of a TRD spring. if it was a king spring - yeh sure, TRD - meh maybe not.
lowering it more then 45-50mm will stuff your handling at the expense of 'looking staunch' (which i have no problem with) but just choose carefully what you want the car for.

by **Leon** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:46 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Any ideas on what i could do?

Buy some king super lows, because they're rubbish to start with, rather than ruining some perfectly good TRD springs.

by **Leon** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:47 pm

touge_ae101 wrote:only illegal if it isn't captive.

Nope, cutting springs is illegal. It's a WOF fail, and LVV won't certify springs that have been cut.

by **metal_sean_head** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:50 pm

Sell the trd springs and look at kings, dobi's etc.
Or put the TRD springs in and it will handle better, but won't look as staunch.

by **Malcolm** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:42 pm

FWIW, cutting a coil out will increase the stiffness of the spring, although because you're making it shorter you'll have less preload on it when it's on the strut. Provided you use say a hacksaw rather than something that'll heat the spring up like an angle grinder, it shouldn't affect the spring.

What it does to your handling is another question, and my suggestion on that front would be to not do it.

by **Heylin** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:13 pm

Looking staunch is good, but handeling and actually being able to use the car on steepish driveways and speed humps without scraping the front bumper is even better.

+ the lower you go the more attention youll get from cops who just want to pull you over in the hope of a ticket.

by **metal_sean_head** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:50 pm

Heylin wrote:+ the lower you go the more attention youll get from cops who just want to pull you over in the hope of a ticket.

And with cutties you won't want to get pulled over.

by **tsoob** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:20 pm

just put the trd springs in and be done with it. it will still look nice and the handling will be mint!

or i can sell you some dobis for it

by **Truenotch** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:44 pm

If it's a TRD spring there will be inactive coils on the bottom - cut one of those off and it won't affect the "active" part of the suspension stroke.

Try them first though, you will be surprised at how much difference 30mm makes.

by **1I1** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:47 pm

The AE111 Truenos/Levins don't need to be overly low to still look good. Just look at RobertC's Levin on 15's and Espiller springs

by **RomanV** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:56 pm

Truenotch wrote:If it's a TRD spring there will be inactive coils on the bottom - cut one of those off and it won't affect the "active" part of the suspension stroke.

Try them first though, you will be surprised at how much difference 30mm makes.

Yeah but if you cut off the 'keeper spring' type part of the spring, it will have a minimal affect on the ride height?

As that part of the spring is designed to have a super soft spring rate already, to give suspension droop.

by **metal_sean_head** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:00 pm

You will prob find it will drop a bit more over time as the springs settle.

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:37 pm

I had TRD springs in my 101 and that was bad enough as far as clearence goes, bugger having it lower tbh.
You will also find the TRD springs suberb for ride and handling.

by **TRD_ZERO** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:39 pm

Didn't think if the spring is stil captive it is illegal. Ive got some camber plates that are 20mm thinner than the factory top hats which will lower it a little extra. Just hope the rear 1s fit.

by **cat007** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:42 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Didn't think if the spring is stil captive it is illegal.

If it's cut, captive or not, it's illegal. Any wof place, dodgy or not, will pick up on a cut spring in 1/10th of a heart beat and tick the FAIL box on your wof sheet.

Website · by **Bling** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:53 pm

I thought only shit springs 'settle'

by **metal_sean_head** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:03 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:I thought only shit springs 'settle'

Lol i saw it happen on a xr6 turbo with dobi's so yeah your probably right.

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